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xcruefreakx
#1 Posted : 4/4/2012 4:40:37 PM

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Hey everyone, I've been experimenting with psychedelics for a while now, and I've done all sorts of research on DMT. Thinking about the day i finally get to try it excites me more than just about anything else in the world, but i want to extract myself, to eliminate any possible confusion on what I'm smoking. I'd have to say I read EVERY tek on google, and have chosen my method. I plan to buy 1 kilo of MHRB, to yield several doses for myself and select others. but here's the tek i guess you could say is my own, just bits and pieces from different ones I've read.



1. Put plant matter in a glass mason jar and add a white vinegar solution to create a pH of about 4. Shake well and let sit for *24 hours?*
2. Filter liquid(cotton ball and funnel, coffee filters and metal strainers etc.) into another mason jar, and repeat these steps two more times, discarding plant matter afterward.
3. Add enough naphtha to de-fat all of the solution, shake well and let settle for *an hour or so?* discard naphtha layer and repeat 2 more times.
4. Create a sodium hydroxide solution and add it, keeping a pH of about 12. turn sealed jar over and around for a long time, gently mixing contents, and be sure to vent frequently, and let it cool back down to room temp.
5. Do the naphtha pull 3 more times, and discard your base. put naphtha in a covered, yet ventilated glass dish(cling wrap with a couple holes in the middle) and freeze *overnight?*
6. pull out of freezer and filter through coffee filters, also scraping any crystals off the dish. Put crystals(still on filter) in a dark place, covered with a bowl, to dry. Refreeze naphtha for another day, to get any remaining DMT out. Filter again, and re-use this naphtha if desired.

*heat baths supposedly speed things up, is this true?*

well i don't think i missed anything, that's just from my memory of what i have written down. Does it seem legit? And if you could i labeled the parts i wasn't so sure about with the little ** things, Thanks in advanced, fellow psychonauts!
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#2 Posted : 4/4/2012 6:06:53 PM

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It would work and you got a good idea, but there are things that can get better imo.

For example, three acidic soaks are not enough to get all the alkaloids out, you should do another two, and maybe do some simmering/boiling at least in the last couple of pulls (I do in all...)

Also I would avoid defat. It is a very wasteful outdated process when it comes to extracting dmt.. You will waste a lot of solvent and not clean much, comparatively. Better recrystallize if your spice isnt as desired.

Then, for the pH of basification, I would go to 13-14, or basically add NaOH till its all black, and a bit more if you want. This helps making more of the DMT soluble in naphtha and diminishes chances of emulsions.

As for naphtha pulls, also do more than 3, maybe 5, and keep doing more if last pulls still yield significant amount of alkaloids. Later pulls should stay in for longer and be mixed more times in before separating. You can also warm the last pulls, and freezing them separately because they will probably be with more plant impurities.

You could do a sodium carbonate wash, its not a bad idea.. At least with part of your stuff, and then you can compare both products with vs without wash, and see if you think its worth it for next time.

Lastly, dont really discard anything until you really finish your extractions and are happy with final yield. Until then, just store things aside.
 
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#3 Posted : 4/4/2012 6:37:22 PM

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Okay, thanks man. I guess i'll probably end up experimenting with a few things to get the best method possible, and I'll be sure to let you know how everything goes when the time comes. Any advice on MHRB? i just dont want to order it and have it not even be the right kind of mimosa, i was checking it out on b0.n4 .nza(not sure if you are allowed to name cites or not, oh well), and they have kilos of it for a decent price, seems pretty legit to me..
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#4 Posted : 4/4/2012 6:43:20 PM

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Here, check the supplier's section: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...t.aspx?g=topics&f=39

Please dont mention supplier names outside of that section, I edited that word in your post. Good luck!

Oh also after you do the soaks/boils in acidic solution, you should reduce to a more manageable amount because youll likely have a lot of liquid to deal with
 
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#5 Posted : 4/4/2012 7:03:52 PM

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how would i reduce the amount without wasting any alkaloid? and i may be wrong, but wouldn't boiling evaporate the molecules? i know a heat bath would be fine but i feel actually boiling it would result in less yield
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#6 Posted : 4/4/2012 7:17:35 PM

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Nope, because the alkaloids are in salt form because of the acidic solution, and in this form they are stable at boiling temperatures. In fact, even if it was freebase DMT, it still has a boiling point above 100c. Dont worry, boiling is fine, think about how with ayahuasca the alkaloids are boiled for hours and hours.
 
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#7 Posted : 4/4/2012 7:38:31 PM

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haa, nice. see that's been a set back for me, with this and mescaline (which i've also never done). But you seem to be experienced, so you would know. no longer will i fear boiling the alkaloids!
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#8 Posted : 4/4/2012 7:42:56 PM

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xcruefreakx wrote:
no longer will i fear boiling the alkaloids!


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