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matttee
#1 Posted : 3/24/2012 11:26:49 AM
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I smoked DMT 3 times last night. Upon exhaling everything melted around me and I was suddenly in what seemed to be a room with psychedelic patterns on the walls andfloor that constantly changed. I rotated around and the patterns got more in tense and then I came round. I cant recall any enteties etc. I think i had around 20-30mg per hit. though it was a visual spectacular I cant help but feel i wasnt transported anywhere. Maybe i need to up the dose?? Help please.
 

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#2 Posted : 3/24/2012 11:41:04 AM

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Hey mattee. First of all, it would help to know what you were smoking out of, what kind of lighter you were using, and if you modified the smoking device in any way (i.e. ash bed/herb bed/copper mesh...). I'm a little confused when you say you were in a room with psychedelic patterns on the walls, but then you say you weren't transported anywhere. I do think I understand what you mean I think. Do you mean you still felt like you were in your body?

Also were your eyes shut? It is significantly easier to be "transported" somewhere if you keep your eyes closed after you take your hits. I also wouldn't use entities' presence/absence as any indicator of whether you need a higher dose or smoke more efficiently. Some people get them, some people don't. Out of those who do get them, some get them all the time, some get them rarely. Some see the same entity or entities over and over and others see constantly different ones. Try not to get too hung up on entity contact.
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#3 Posted : 3/24/2012 11:44:09 AM
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What you need to do is to check your smoking method. As 20-30mg is breakthrough dose when taken in single inhalation with proper tool, such as vaporgenie.
 
matttee
#4 Posted : 3/24/2012 11:48:36 AM
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Thanks for the reply. I was smoking out of a bong. basically a plastic bottle with a pipe and gause coming out of the top. I used a plain old lighter and drew the smoke in by the pressure of the water. I had my eyees closed and yes i was somewhere totally not in the room but i didnt ''break through'' or get thrown into another relm. I could feel my hands and felt I didnt leave my body and it was all in my head.
 
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#5 Posted : 3/24/2012 12:06:56 PM
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vapourgenie it is. thankyou kind sir.
 
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#6 Posted : 3/24/2012 1:32:12 PM

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The vapor genie, specifically the glass vapor genie (GVG), will take you far, but if you get the GVG, you should also get the Arc torch tabletop lighter to go with it. I went through 3 lighters, all more expensive than the Arc, but the Arc is the only one that really did the trick because the GVG should be lit with a torch lighter, but the problem is that many torch lighters are not designed to be used upside down (which is how the GVG must be lit). The Arc can light on any angle and has never malfunctioned like my other expensive ones did so quickly.

Also, I wouldn't be too discouraged about "not leaving the room". Even in some of my most intense breakthroughs, even though I seem to be off in a far-off place, I can still feel my back against the couch, or my hands crossed in my lap or something of the sort. Some people get full out of body experiences rather readily and others (like myself) are generally privy to partial out of body experiences, but just keep on trying, and try to appreciate whatever the molecule throws your way because even if it's a rather mild experience, those kinds of journeys are brilliant in terms of getting you accustomed with the sensations and effects so that when you do have a full breakthrough, you won't inevitably get scared, resist and make things a whole lot of worse for yourself.
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when i smoke and see patterns on everything i know i had enough and lie down with closed eyes adjusting to the frequency with sound
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