hey guys, im new to the world of spice in all forms (and this forum), however having vaped spice i proceeded to buy 80g of chaliponga for an ayahuasca experiance
as i have a larger quantity of leaf than i need for the brew i was hoping to make changa with the rest.
are there any guides on how to go about this?
from what i have read they use an alcohol extraction (good for me, i do not have acess to alot of chems).
i have some 78% clean vodka i was considering for the process, would this be suitable?

any info on the matter is greatly appreciated.
thanks guys!

it seems i overlooked conversion to freebase, how can i do this using the above method?

chaliponga ain´t the best source for freebase since it´s so oily and icky you need to clean it up before extracting.

My best bet would be to save the chaliponga for brews and just buy some mimosa for extractions...

Once thing that you could do is use the chaliponga as base for changa, it´s a great plant for this and really brings it´s own powers in the mix when mixed with some freebase and harmalas.

thank for the info!
what do you mean by a base for changa?

i may just keep it for brews, however i have more than enough for what i intended.

are there any other novel things i can do with my chali leaf?

if you have a pet mouse you could make him/her a little hat out of the leaves, that would be quite novel

I meant you could enhance the chaliponga leaf by soaking it in dmt freebase and extracted harmalas to make your changa..

I did it once with chaliponga in this ration, 2grams chali leaf, 1gram dreebase dmt, 250mg harmalas.

Just mix the dmt and harmalas with a small amount of acetone then pour it on the shredded chali leaf and let the acetone evap.


The chaliponga will def ad some power of it own into the mix.

is there any way to make changa without first extracting pure freebase dmt?
on a side note, would it be viable to drink a chaliponga brew without the syrian rue, if the dose of chali is increased?

also, as for the hat. way ahead of you, marcus loves it

I think it´s not gonna happen without some kind of dmt freebase concentrate, also dmt won´t be active orally without maoi no.

If you can´t buy anything of the net then check out your local persian market if you have one, syrian rue is what you are looking for.

i have syrian rue in my drawer, i was under the impression that with a high enough dose orally (300mg +) no maoi needed to be taken.

im still of the maoi interactions with food/everything.
this is the only reason i havent made my aya brew yet

With "rima" types of maois like caapi or rue it does not really matter that much with diet.

Just eat clean food and starve for at least 5hours before drinking the brew and you should be ok.

My tips about rue though is that you grind the seeds down really good and cap them and eat, 3-5grams should be enough.