Wow, thanks guys. I'm honestly flattered by your compliments and input. I'm surprised ya'll haven't been
more critical, I was afraid I may have gotten some facts wrong, stuff of that sort.
Quote:Awesome! Congrats on the experience and that others saw what you saw.
Sometime we are going to figure this DMT thing out!!
So maybe you were all in the same portal location type thing at that time to get there.
One guy on here says a tone (note) can trigger a trip to the same place.
I'm so glad I posted this here. You just pointed out a big detail I left out from the article, which is that we all listened to the same song during it. Like, we actually started the song right as we blew the smoke out. I remember feeling like that may have been part of the reason we all saw the same thing right after the trip. I got some editing to do lol. The important detail about the music, though, was that I told my friends to turn it off half-way through the trip, and they did. But afterward, they had to remind me they turned the music off for me, because I definitely heard music still after they turned it off.
Quote:My latest theory is that what we are experiencing are programs that we trigger.
Programs that are very sophisticated and filled with deep archetypal imagery.
I feel that there is a certain part of the dmt experience that has been set up to measure and monitor life in the universe.
We are captive and transfixed on bizarre sometimes scary imagery playing out with insane speed.
We are confronted with alien entities trying to communicate with us but never quite conveying they're message.
This is a standard theme. Over and over this occurs.
I am suggesting that while our attention is completely focussed on the experience, there is some kind of automated program that is
sampling or measuring us , perhaps our DNA code or some other telltale marker that identifies what we are as a biological lifeform.
I'm suggesting that some of the crazy insane stuff we are witnessing is a synthetic program of some sort.
Check it out next time there some crazy stuff in your face, the feeling of interaction is an illusion.
Its a game of some kind. I'm convinced that alot , Not all, of the entity things are totally fake .
They are designed to scare and intrigue us, something designed it to be this way.
Its possible that it was set in motion a long long time ago and has been refined by human and other biological entities like ourselves over time.
It is self modifying so it builds on the input of our collective experiences over time. Thats why its filled with so much archetypal variation.
i'm not saying its the whole story but definitely part of it.
What i'm saying here is based on my own experience over the course of a number of years of steady work with this stuff.
Its a very tricky tricky thing thats for sure.
Dude, you've kind of blown my mind haha. The idea that perhaps DMT can identify exactly what we are biologically is very interesting.
I'll share my latest theory since you shared yours. I'm not sure even if its exactly a theory, but it deals with the tribal nature of the beings I saw. I had the realization of a flaw I had in my thinking about that. I had been thinking along the lines of "why did they dance like Native Americans." But when I thought about it, especially considering my friends saw the same beings, I realized I had it backwards. If the Native Americans used DMT from time to time, wouldn't it make sense that maybe a few of them saw these beings too? And if that's the case, they'd almost certainly adopt the dance of the beings they saw. So I realized, the beings I saw weren't dancing like Native Americans, but the Native Americans have been dancing like them all this time. Just a thought. Thanks so much for chiming in.
Quote:I think it's more then set and setting, it's the entire state of your life. Your everything. Your diet, your mood, your karma, etc,
That's the way I like to think of it. I think set and setting have their effects, but I think the makeup of a person's character is what fundamentally determines what kind of trip you have.
Quote:Exceptionally well written, though I have to agree with the insistence that DMT is the the most powerful of hallucinogens. 5meo-DMT is much more active, and Ibogaine also seems to be a more exhaustive experience if not as visually spectacular. Maybe I'm nitpicking but I just feel that sensationalizing DMT or labeling it an end-all be-all among tryptamines could contribute towards misunderstanding in effect to the uninformed reader.
I don't think you're being nitpicky. This was actually one of the things I expected criticism from. Obvioulsy, having not done every drug that exists, I have no subjective basis to be making such a claim. I've actually never heard of ibogaine, although I just wikipedia'd it lol. Thanks for speaking your mind and, please, if you have any other constructive criticisms of the article let them be heard!

Quote:I do not mean to detract from the insightful replies that have been so far posted, but I am just now coming out of a syrian rue + mimosa trip and am not at all interested in trying to explain my experience. I'm not much in the way of seeking answers to all of life's mysteries. I don't exactly know how this chemical does what it does and maybe that's the point of it all. I have never successfully smoked freebase DMT, although I surely will in coming weeks, so I cannot relate directly to the OP's experience. I could try to interpret what happened, but for the moment I just accept everything for what it is. I have hardly scratched the surface of hallucinogenic substances so I have no perspective on what is or isn't the most powerful, but the oral DMT experience has a sort of finality to it. I'm not particularly interested in a powerful experience and instead would prefer a meaningful one that shapes and defines me. And that's what I get every time.
You sound just like my friend Alec from the report. He wasn't much into questioning what the whole experience was about, he was the one who just plainly remarked "I partied with the gods." Personally, I couldn't imagine not questioning it, it's just who I am. Although I must admit, I'm afraid putting my experience out there may upset them. I'm afraid if I do DMT again they won't accept me because I tried to reveal they're existence or something like that. Having said that, I simply can't help myself in my pursuit of figuring this drug out, despite knowing how foolish it is to think I'm capable of doing so. To each his own

Quote:This has to be one of the best written trip reports (I prefer the term 'journey reports'

I have seen. Thank you very much for taking your time to put the article together. Needless to say: I can relate to a lot of what you have said in your report. You definitely have a talent for talking about the inconceivable
Thank you so much. That really means a lot because this was one of the hardest things I've ever written. It took well over a month, as it was mentally exhausting trying to recollect the experience. If ya'll could pass this along to any friends who'd be interested, or post it on your Facebook/twitter or something like that, it'd be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again everyone. Keep the replies coming, these are exactly the discussions I like having.