Last night every thing was just perfect, all stars set proper and I went for it. Meditated for a while and felt perfect. I've started meditation just because of spice and found what was missing from my life and never imagined how important meditation is for our lives specially these troubled days (an other thank to the forum). I felt a bit anxious about my first hits and went for a 15 minute running and after that meditated some more. I loaded my machine (the key) with 17mg spice and took my first hits which where not exactly hits. The spice melted too slow so not much vapor produced. It had a pleasant flower flavor and generally not harsh at all. I just couldn’t put enough of it in my lungs. I tried once more with a same dose only with the fire closer to the spice. The first 2 hits where also light but the third one was a good one. I thought this is it, left the machine and lied down. I felt very weird my heart beat slowing down fast as it was going to stop. My breath was still deep and a bit gasping cause of the last hit. A bit numness in my legs. Closed my eyes and was quite amazed of a few colorful images like sitting in the back seat of a car and watching the landscape move behind. I sensed things similar to my salvia or yopo trips but quite weaker. This hardly lasted a minute! I thought to my self I got to take some more and go back. Loaded 20 mg on the machine and took directly a few hits. Once again the third hit was the densest but felt almost nothing except a bit trippy like having a light joint. I went for a fourth try but without any effect. Enough for one night and went to sleep. I think I had a lot of dreaming. I even dreamed having a hell of a party!
I’d like to have a second chance today if you got any advise on how to do things right. I’m sure I do have large enough lungs for the process. I've already took a few good hits of salvia in the beach today and I do can hold it in for 20-30 seconds I don't think that is the fact.
Once again thanks for any reply

Although it's hard to determine the exact factors from a narrative, sometimes taking a break (lying down and then deciding to go further) can make it more difficult to break through, when compared to persistent trucking until the dimensions rent.

I think you gotta work on your smoking technique. I noticed little hits will get you nowhere. Maybe try making some changa if you keep having trouble. Changa's pretty much foolproof to smoke and I guarantee you 2 or 3 big hits of some good changa will rock your world

But how can you do 2 large hits? I take one and I am lost somewhere and can't even comprehend anything! Maybe 15 minutes later I could take another. Or maybe my machine (vinegar bottle with metal top w/ hole in top) I made is maybe too good!

It takes practice. It can be hard to hold yourself "down" long enough to smoke enough, but with practice, meditation & concentration, it can happen. I think that's actually one of the more valuable aspects of DMT... it trains your ability to concentrate.

Thanks for that info Kookaburra! That is one of those valuable info things no one will tell you around here. Most of it is: Just try. Your smoking tech isnt working. Or you will know when it happens. Or load up more for the 1 hit (like 100mg). All that stuff doesnt help. Practice and consontration / meditation makes sense!
Cheers!

I read that I must not take a hit till the spice gets warmed for 3-4 seconds. After that the smoke should be much more dense and after two hits I should be tripping my brain away.
I know almost nothing about changa but today I received some catmint 80g and blue lotus flowers 20g I was planning to test through a cup of tea. Do you have any other suggestions for these herbs?

The problem was so simple. Sorry but on my first tries I was afraid of burning the DMT and that way wasted even more of it. Yesterday I just brought the fire closer to the spice. I got lot's of it my lungs (just 10mg x3 hits) and had a small pleasant trip with flashing colous and even a glance of an other world so real as are own.
Cheers

You should load yourself up with an maoi beforehand
Changa , caapi leaf is a good choice .

Dmt without maoi is not the fullest possibility
And can be lacking of depth context and assistance in troubled waters .

100mg?! I'm thinking this is slightly dangerous advice, smoalking too much can be an extremely uncomfortable experience. Terrifying even. :evil: And yes I have been there Refining technique or smoking equipment would be a better idea IMHO

Great news! Glad it worked out. It can definitely take some trial and error!



I would love to get this as a fortune cookie.

What do you mean?

Yup, well the 100mg was just an example of what people say to do, when I tell them it's hard to get 3 hits. Plus the whole "did I breakthrough?"(smoalk moar).
I do not condone taking 100mg at all. Please dose responsibly

What I mean is the vine is our plant friend and guide
It helps us see and give us what we need from the experience .
Dmt alone can be a strong confusing bitch slap in your ass .

The maoi works synergistically with dmt
Simply put it gives you a deeper more meaningful experience
There is a good reason amazonian shaman use the two togethor .
I don't argue with thousands of years of tradition .
It's the only precident we have for use of this stuff .

You've got some strong point my friend. I can only agree
What should I buy?
Caapi leaf?
Caapi Vine?
Ourinhos?
Trueno?
Powder or shredded?
...Sorry market's offer lot's of choices, what do you think is the best?

Isnt the rue the most potent of them all? A good deal for a cheaper price too!
But I have only heard this and never tried.