So, my cat performed her first extraction on powdered MHRB about a week ago. She partook in her first breakthrough earlier this morning after having received her shiny new Sherlock GVG. While a proper first steps report deserves some serious reflection, she has shared a few key points.

My cat has been a daily smoker of both cigarettes and weed for some time now. My understanding is that both can have a cumulative effect on the amount of spice needed to breakthrough. I understand also (or think I do) that the jimjam spice she's prepared via naphtha evap must be taken in slightly larger doses to reach relatively similar levels of hyperspace as opposed to using pure spice. Her first glimpse into the space was accompanied by a male spirit who was content to simply observe the new-found experience without speaking. For no reason my cat can conjure, the spirit had an aura of anticipation around him - that the first signs of a purpose brought to fruition are being beheld, and a wave of contentedness permeated the entire space. How such a connectedness and understanding can be felt with no words spoken was a greatly positive highlight of the experience. The spirit sat, leaning against a wall to the right within a plain square room. A room plain in abstract form, yet intricately unique in every sense when any fine detail was observed and pondered.

It was not until the 3rd taste of spice this morning my cat took that the grand experience was felt. A 30mg, then a 40mg about 15min later, dose each failed to produce a profound effect, trailing off with familiar, yet mundane, weak abstract visuals and a mild clouded feeling of emotional clarity with no point of experiential reference to attribute it to. The 40mg dose was done with poor technique, trying to split the vaporization into two doses. A 50mg dose taken in a single hit about 40min after the first 30mg was what finally produced the breakthrough. My cat went back through her life's past to find herself back in the days of her show choir, where diaphragm control was the be-all of each passing moment. Suspecting that no second toke be needed for her, she found a technique that worked impeccably well for her

Time will tell how much technique played a role in the shift. My cat plans to extract through freeze precipitation part of the next run for trials in the difference between a pure extract and the full spectrum spice. Her minion (owner) has been tasked with acquiring Xylene for further exploration with jungle spice.

To provide the necessary data needed to consider the % weight of spice contained in the fruit of my feline friend's labor:

To 100g vinegar was added 10g citric acid in a glass pot, to which 100g powdered MHRB was added. A bit of water was added to provide more aqueous room to the mix while the acidic solution was simmered with frequent stirring for ~20min. Entire solution was transferred to HDPE container and let sit for ~24 hours. Solution was strained into 2nd HDPE, to which 100g of NaOH in water solution was added. Basified solution was mixed end-over-end periodically over ~2 hour time frame. Naphtha was added to form a 1" layer of separation (~200mL), and the solution was again mixed end-over-end for ~15min. Complete separation of phases occurred no more than ~30min later. Solvent was siphoned off the top, placed into a glass dish, and mild heat+airflow applied to assist. Remaining basified solution was added back into HDPE containing strained plant matter.

My cat is 99.99% sure that less than .01% of the basified aqueous phase made it into the siphon. First pull yielded 1.1g of jimjam after scraping, chopping, and ~6 hours of drying to ensure all naphtha was evaporated. Second pull done on the recombined plant matter + basified solution after a second straining with same amount of naphtha (warmed to ~90 deg F) yielded a further ~550mg of jimjam upon evap.


The questions I have are such: Do you (or known acquaintances) ever require 50mg of jimjam to breakthrough? Is crossing a dose threshold a more important factor than that of 'stacking' multiple doses within a short time when it comes to breaking through? I'm curious to hear opinions regarding the causality of such a thing.

Your cat is cool.lol

Hey, naepius. Thanks for the post, experience report was cool to read. I don't wanna tell you how to do your tek. If you got over 1.5%, then that's cool. Sounds like a lot of lye to use with no defat and no wash but congrats no less.

My experience comes from with a super refined a/b so I get nothing but pure crystals, but I can't see why you shouldn't break through from 50mg jimjam.

Don't stack doses, though. Your body breaks down dmt super fast, and although you'll get differing opinions on this, I think it's meaningless to redose within an hour maybe two.

I broke though the other day, came to and about fifteen minutes late wanted to see if I got it all out of my GVG so I "cleaned it" with my torch and got just a little vapor and absolutely no effects whatsoever. Don't redose, it's a waste of spice.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the replies

@ seeohhdee:

Wow, what a coincidence to read your post this morning. Last night was the first time I had a let-down with re-dosing. Smoalked 40mg first off and had some heavy pre-flight jitters that spoiled much of the experience. Loaded up 30mg about 25 minutes later and got mild CEVs and auditory distortions, but was left waiting and waiting for a rush that never kicked in

I am still somewhat in the honeymoon phase, and each time it's rather difficult on the first dose of a day to go all-in and keep taking hits as long as I am able. While holding the first hit, that tinge of intensity starts to kick in, and I'll back off unable to keep taking hits. Having wet feet from a prior dose always took care of this problem.

I'm sure there are many factors at play regarding the effectiveness of re-dosing - but I've now got first-hand knowledge of the risk of outright wasted spice you touched on. I'm presently in the mind-grinder of working out a method to ward off those pre-flight jitters for next time

you read my mind... i have read a lot on this forum about super-seasoned travelers still getting the jitters and pre-launch anxiety and i never understood until after my first blast off. i have smoked about 4 times so i guess i am also still very new, but i completely understand what they mean now. i think it has to do with the consciousness of the intensity of the experience and not knowing what to expect.

i also have the problem of getting in one super good rip and having that hit me too quickly to take another, thereby inhibiting me from getting the "full dose" that i want. i am still playing with this idea but i think i found a solution, perhaps someone can comment...

a lot of GVG users say they can load up 50mgs and get it all in one hit. i think this is possible and also the best way to ensure best dosage. you have to start inhaling VERY slow and just make sure you are making the most efficient use of the pipe and its intended use. this way you get super thick vapor in only one inhalation. i loaded 50mg my first time with the GVG and when I went back to "clean" it there was some, but not a lot left. so i think im close to being able to do it all in one rip.

everything else is just icing

Heh! Catnip extraction!!! =^..^=

your 100% right u know how intence of an experence it is and that no matter what once you took your brakethrough hit your along for the ride. and the fear of not knowing whats next before the blanket of love hits you and calms you down (me atleast)

Man thats one smoking smart cat lol.

Congratz on your first extract!

Just to let you know Xylene is VERY smelly so be cautious about that one if its an issue.

But ya since you are going through the effort of acid base extraction, you might as well do a defat of your acidic solution a few times with naptha, you will get way better quality spice this way, and need way less spice to get good results. Definitly do a freeze precip! To my knowledge there is no need to add citric acid either to your already acidic acetic acid soln.

Just curious are you sure you broke through? Breaking through isnt getting more than tracers or getting oilpaintings and geometric images, or images of entities near you, or even becoming very reflective. Breaking through is shattering your reality and during the experience not remembering who you are, or where you are, and being encompassed in the overwhelming flow of spice, thoughts, images, entities, and the universe itself. Its a pretty amazing experience if you havent reached it yet. Maybe you already have

Breakthroughs are definitly unique to the individuals, thats what it was like for me



I would definitly say the more times you redose, the more you have to smoke to get effects in my experience. Purity is a huge factor as well as smoking tech. I usually break through with 30mg, so I usually only smoke half of it and get very strong effects.