We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
MAOI chemistry question Options
 
EmptyHand
#1 Posted : 2/20/2012 6:40:21 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 99
Joined: 03-Oct-2011
Last visit: 08-Apr-2020
Location: North Carolina

Can some informed chemist explain to me (or direct me to an explanation) as to why MAO breaks down DMT in the liver but not psilocybin even though they are chemically similar?

thanks!

eH

 

Explore our global analysis service for precise testing of your extracts and other substances.
 
joedirt
#2 Posted : 2/20/2012 9:37:57 PM

Not I

Senior Member

Posts: 2007
Joined: 30-Aug-2010
Last visit: 23-Sep-2019
EmptyHand wrote:

Can some informed chemist explain to me (or direct me to an explanation) as to why MAO breaks down DMT in the liver but not psilocybin even though they are chemically similar?

thanks!

eH



It has to do with the conformation of psilocin. The free amine can bite back and stabilize on the 4 hydroxy.
What this means is that the conformation that can be oxidized by MAO is in far less abundance than say DMT which just has a free amine dangling into solution and no stabilizing 4 hydoxyl group. So it is oxidized by MAO...just slower.

I also suspect the conformational folding of psilocin helps it to cross the BBB...as polar compounds typically have a hard time crossing non polar membranes unless then can fold up and shield some of their charge.

Peace
If your religion, faith, devotion, or self proclaimed spirituality is not directly leading to an increase in kindness, empathy, compassion and tolerance for others then you have been misled.
 
benzyme
#3 Posted : 2/21/2012 2:50:08 AM

analytical chemist

Moderator | Skills: Analytical equipment, Chemical master expertExtreme Chemical expert | Skills: Analytical equipment, Chemical master expertChemical expert | Skills: Analytical equipment, Chemical master expertSenior Member | Skills: Analytical equipment, Chemical master expert

Posts: 7463
Joined: 21-May-2008
Last visit: 03-Mar-2024
Location: the lab
(of course) transporter proteins ferry psilocin, an amphipathic molecule, across the BBB.
indeed, it must be something about the binding active site of MAO-A (probably orientation of some lysine groups) that exclude 4-HO-DMT, but bind 5-HO-DMT.
"Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
"Experiments are the only means of attaining knowledge at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." -Max Planck
 
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.013 seconds.