im a non smoker of ANYTHING, i dont smoke weed, no cigs, nothing, i rly dont like anything but clean air..

but DMT is amazing and its a worthwile sacrifice to smoke.

my problem is right when i got my machine filled with smoke and i get a halfway thru my toke i get a tickle in my throut EVERY time, and have to cough, then i try to take the rest, cant get it all.. im using almost pure white spice also, extracted myself.

i RLY want to cut that last thread of connection to my body, i dont feel ive gone as far as she can take me.

is there ant tricks? im thinking sore throut spray.. to numb that tickle reflex, what u think??

Try ayahuasca, you drink it.

Or try using a bong and taking smaller hits, but clearing your bowl. The water cools the vapor.

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You might be burning it, which is what produces harsh smoke, so maybe try to bring the lighter to the bowl a little slower. Also, a bong or bubbler will make the hit smoother. Ive never tried cough spray, but having a cough drop about 10 minutes before seems to put a bit of a coating on the lining of your throat which helps me. A spoonful of honey might help too!

as stated altering your technique or trying bong or bubbler might help.

though if you are still having problems try a cough spray, just make sure it has an oral anesthetic in it.. cepacol seems to work

The best way to experience the full effects without the harshness is to inhale the smoke as slow as possible so that the lungs pace of absorption is in sync so that your lungs wont end up full of smoke. Also don't burn the spice.

Try attaching a straw to the machine also, this may help with slow inhaling.

ok thanks guys, ive heard a bubbler catches alot of the dmt as it moves thru the water tho..

yea i do feel i may be burning it a bit.. the machine works good but there is nothing in between the deems and the flame for some of it.. hmm

You heard wrong btw. ;]

try taking some codeine or a low dose of another type of opiate, they realy stop all urges of coughing

Do your self a favour and buy GVG.

Put a hole in the cap that goes on the machine. Make sure you clean the cap so there is no paint and no rubber inside. Move mesh deeper a bit in the bottle, then put the cap back on. A nail hole in the cap will work. Then have the torch lighter heat go down the hole and you will get the best hits!


Good luck!

Edit: also you can put mesh + spice + mesh

Ummm.. I think there was something about barbiturates + DMT being fatal. I could be wrong but MDMA + spice is not recommended. I don't know if it's the same type of barbiturate or not.

Anyone???

hmm that seems like it may work, but the only thing is even with out the cap on sometimes not all the spice gets vaped, like on the sides i can still tell that its not vaped, maybe multiple nail holes.. i think il try it, i have a shitty lighter also right now.. just a bic.

i have done low dose mdma/dmt, seemed fine.. i dont do rly any opiates so thats a no go, im trying cough drops now, il report back

just came back from hyperspace about 15 min ago..

the toke was going great! until... i blew it ALL out in the WRONG DIRECTION.. tried to save it, took another pull, nope.. very mild trip filled with self loathing for blowin out.. fuuuuukk

ugh.. idk i need a gvg i guess

Totally agree on using a GVG (Glass Vapor Genie)

I couldn't taste anything, and couldn't feel any vapor going into my lungs.
Its as if was just inhaling regular air, so holding it was not a problem.
The most important thing was that It made it easy to hold it for 20 seconds, and the 2nd hit for 15 before I was GONE.
I did use a butane torch lighter, which VG says not to use. However, I think if used properly, its a Great thing to use.
See the sticky at the top of the Welcome area regarding Glass Vapor Genie use, etc.

Good luck. If you do what I did, it will be sayonara

Bic doesn't work for the method I mentioned. I even said use a torch with one hole. What do you mean you blew it out the wrong direction?