So I am working my way up to hyperspace bit by bit. I still dont have a scale.

So I packed about tripple what I was previously. Getting antsy to feel and see what everyone else is seeing. I took one HUGE toke and held it in. I put the pipe down and then layed back with my headphones. I dont remember exhaling. The visuals started within maybe 5 seconds, then I sat up and took the headphones off. My view was complicated then because I was now stuck in this trip of holding my headphones and looking around at intense lines all over the place. I seem to be getting coloured lines on all of my trips now. So I was trying to figure out what was happening, it was like I was stuck and looking at these lines moving all in kind of grid but it felt I was somehow broken and stuck. Kind of like a puzzle I had to figure out. Then as I looked down at my headphones it was so complicated because it was all covered by these complicated grid-like lines, with vibration waves of sound coming off of them. I finally figured it out that it was my headphones and put them on and layed back. Then closed viduals it looked like a stargazer type flower pedals with these organic white veins, with sort of a red colour flowing through them. Then I opened my eyes again and my whole room was bending and flowing in weirdness of acid shoomlike feel. Oh and the curtains (morning light behind) were marked in a sort of indian or aztek pattern (it is now flowers after I came down)

This is by far the most intense I have had! Very complicated though because of me sitting up and getting confused with my headphones. Didnt see any entities though. But man this is some heavy visuals + confustion. It lasted exactly 10 minutes.

Thanks for reading

I took as much of a heavy vapor toke as I could and held it in. Sat up took the heaphones off. In the trip which was like BANG! It felt like I had broken something in my brain and *GLING* I was confused sitting up with my headphones in my hand. Coloured lines all over the place really intense and the headphones looked like some odd puzzle. I was saying "what?.. What???" in my mind I thought *now I have done it, I have broken my brain* hehe.. Very very strange!!!

I wanted to add that when I closed my eyes the last time and saw the flower shape. There was a sort of a frosted glass thing with a shadow moving behind it. I was trying to see what it was but the DMT was wearing off.
But I dont know if any of you get this is the lines pattern and it kind of feels like you are in a dome or box or something. It was like a 20x20 ft box. very intense visual colours and very 2d texture on a 3D space box. I seem to get that every time, but this time was like I was slammed in the brain hard!
Plus I dont know how you guys can take more than one toke. I was out of it be the first toke bigtime!

thank you for sharing , what pipe do you use ?

Thanks for your reply!

I used my glass vinegar bottle with the metal lid with a small hole on top mesh in the neck of the bottle(pics I have posted on my machine thread). This pipe is out of this world. I wish someone else would try and make one, because it is impossible to burn the spice because the flame will never touch the spice, only heat.
This took me there, but just not hyperspace and very smooth, I taste nothing.

try going for more than just the initial one big toke!

that flower you see might be known as the chrysanthemum; the 'gate' to the other side, as terence mckenna defined it

I will post a picture later of that flower I saw with the vein type tubes (with red liquid flowing through) and a frosted glass with shadows on the other side. Oh wait! Maybe that is the chrysanthemum flower (like you said) and the frosted glass was the membrane!! The shadow figure was maybe waiting to greet me!
So I think what happened was I way laying down and I got up with open eyes visuals. I got confused, then when I got my head together put my headphones on and layed back down. Thats when I saw the flower with closed eyes, but by that time I was too late, the spice was wearing off. Saw only a bit of the chrysanthemum.

I remember , I saw the pictures in the other thread. I guess its time to get some nice .001 scale dont you think

This way you can control exactly how much you smoke. Something like this will do I have one of these and it works well.

Thanks! That is a very nice scale because you can load the spice up from that little tray. No fussing around by trying to pick it up with a card or razerblade.

I am still in shock! That was a very intense trip. I kind of felt like when you get a blow to the head and have a concussion, but are still awake and moving. My vision was completely covered in colorful lines. Never ever in my life experienced anything that intense... As you can see, I have done quite a few drugs over the course of my life. But DMT is like no other! If acid and mushrooms is fabulous, then DMT is supercalafragilistic'expialadosious!
But I agree with what someone else said, that DMT is too powerful for humans. I think if you grew up as a kid taking it, then your brain would wrap around it and maybe might become superhuman!

After the trip I hung new curtains, setup a bed in another room and cleaned my whole workshop table (that had junk on it). Somehow I see things a bit different even though I wasnt told by an entity. Just makes sense to do things now and not later. Spice told me? I donno... Just a feeling of enlightenment...

I remembered now I got a blow like that after I took second big hit around ten minutes after smoking spice. It was so strong I freaked out completely. Who knows what would happened if I let go ... this molecule is strong indeed



Its cold living in now. There is no past or future it does not exist and never did anyway. There was and never will be a time when you were not and will not be in NOW .

Do you know book "The Power Of Now" from Eckhart Tolle ? I think you would love it. I should have a e-book somewhere if you want I can email it to you just let me know.

Yup, what do they call it when you take too much spice? DMT face slap?
Time did stand still there, lines were moving but time and the world I live in was nothing. Absolutely gone! This will sound silly, but it felt like I was crosseyed and stupid like chicken, chickens move their heads and look around all dumb. That's what I felt like and very confused!

As for time is now. Please do send it!! I need something to read, other than nexus all the time!

Thanks so much for listening to me as this trip was confusing and needed someone to respond back. Nexus is great, but sometimes people get responses and others don't. Thanks friend.

Here is a picture I made of the trip I had. This was the flower type thing I was seeing. The outside around the flower was hollow tubes with what looked like blood or something red. I was not scared. The shadows were moving around in the distance. I kind of just saw one to two pedals of the flower very close up. but I just added the whole thing in there for this picture.

Edit: I have updated to just about exactly what I saw when I closed my eyes in the bottom pic under. It was of course more detailed and the white tubes with red flowing were really shiny with milky and blood colour flowing through. The shadows were exactly like that but moving... Colours on the flower type leaf was a bit more rich and vivid but you get the jest of it.

WOW.........

I couldn't believe how much the AWS .001 g x 20g scale cost on the link provided................
It showed around 115 pounds......

I bought one last week through amazon and paid $25 for it plus $10 shipping........for a total of a whopping $35...

it is the AWS Gemini 20

They say the margin of error can be + or - 20mg at very small weighings..............but I believe this is sufficient unless you have a boatload of cash..........the same company does offer more accurate scales for more money i think...........

that being said........the more you weigh out, the more accurate you will be, so perhaps weighing out 100mg and then break it up by eyeballing after that will reduce the overall error of trying to weigh out only 25-30mg at a time........

Just a thought..................

Good luck

Regarding scales you would want one that has +-1mg difference and goes from 0.001g-15g, these usually cost about 45-50$ and are both accurate and easy to handle.

What MooshyPeaches said about going for more than 1 toke I have to agree with as long as your ONE toke didn't deplete the whole dose, If so I guess you're a vapor-monster

I've come to grown quite familiar with the dmt-trance that kicks in during the vaporizing, were you're quickly getting numbed off and starting to feel heavily intoxicated and because of this I know when I'm about to go the whole mile and when I'm not.

If I'm physically capable of vaporizing more DMT when the premeasured dosage has been fully absorbed, I know I've failed at breakingthrough. If however, I'm completely out of it during my second and third hit, I know I've succeded

Can you or someone define a breakthrough? Is it when you go through the hyperspace veil curtain membrane? Or when you are not here mentally?

The toke I took was huge thick, I had to stop the lighter to clear the chamber. I was slammed almost instantly and stunned. Visuals covered my whole view. I don't see how I could have taken more than one toke. I know when you take mild tokes you can get used to the fuzzy glow and take 2 more hits. But what happen was I was hit by a train! I am glad I didn't freak out. So maybe take smaller tokes? So I can get more smaller hits? I am not very experienced at this.

To me what it felt like I hit too much in only one toke and sort of crippled my preception. It was like it was a loop of some sort I was stuck in a play room (colourful strobing lines) with a complicated puzzle in my hands (dj style headphones held upside down). After the trip it felt like "how dare them do that to me, stick me in that play room and they are laughing at me!"


About the scale the Gemini 20 looks good. Sears has it for $47. I will pick one up soon. Thanks guys for the scale guidance!!

I am all for electronic balances, but if one spends less than $200, there are bound to be problems with having it weigh with repeatability.
When you just get it, try to find a piece of metal (your calibration-weight) that does not corrode (like brass) of a mass that is around your sweet-spot, like 40 mg.
Use this to check you balance every time you are going to use it. Have a set or two of spare batteries alomg with it, because the first thing that happens is NOT that the screen blanks out, but that it starts to give the wrong masses. Change these batteries whenever your calibration-weight reads different from what it should.

Me, I like the one below. No batteries necessary. But they can be fiddly.

Thanks for your info and suggestion and I will look into it. I think rechargeable batteries is the way to go then for the digi scale. That's crazy that digi scales go out of whack.

Since the matter is regarding a powerful psychedelic substance this will most likely greatly vary from each individual, for example; My best friends experiences are completely unique and aren't similar to mine in anyway except sometimes in their intensity (come-up, massive stimulus input etc.).

Although, he has yet to experience a breakthrough (as he defines it ofc.). Personally I believe that a breakthrough is when you mentally and physically breakthrough something which will inturn allow you to enter a whole new world

This is the main reason why I don't close my eyes, things happen to fast, from experience this doesn't happen all to fast (in comparison) if you keep your eyes open, instead you will see the "space" unfold right before your eyes, it's a truly marvelous experience.

My definition of a breakthrough is: If you have to close your eyes in order to experience the "full breakthrough" effects, you didn't take enough for a real breakthrough.

My definition of a real breakthrough is when there's no escaping and no "safety zones" left, were it doesn't matter if your eyes are open or closed.

Because when you blink in hyperspace, hyperspace blinks back

Evisceratechuck - Thanks so much for your definition!! I think its bang on. Unlike what others said in another thread, they sort of just critisized and said basically nothing that helps. "take more and you will find out", "its like the length of a string" huh?? But I thank you for your kind understanding and intilect!

Yup my open eyes visuals would have not gone away or changed had I blinked and I was locked in, no safety net. It wasnt until I was coming down and back to my room and could see it, then I could lay back and close my eyes and see different visuals. With my open eyes visuals it was multi coloured lines strobing / flashing like crazy all over the place. I dont remember if it was all over the walls and furnature or not because it was just so crazy. Havent gone back yet! (Kinda scared)

Thanks eh!

Wrong link sorry for that I bought it for about this price here is the right link