Hey everyone !

So, the experience I wanted to talk about actually happened a couple of weeks ago, since when I've been tripping less, smoking more and getting my life back on track. (lol) After many failed attempts to get the kind of trip I wanted out of dmt, mostly due to my vaporization method, I finally created my own ghetto vape (using a chemistry lab beaker with some sort of glass chamber that fit perfectly) that had a large chamber that would fill up with straight vapor when I heated a glass surface atop which the dmt was placed. It worked much, much better than any other method I had ever used, which includes trying out a vapor genie. Anyway, so once I started using this device, I would basically always get a 'proper experience' but out of these maybe 4 trips, only one was in a setting where I could really pound it and chill. I want to describe that one trip because the others don't really hold much meaning at all for me since I wouldn't consider them to be breakthrough experiences.(I once tripped in a restroom cubical -.-)
Here goes:

Dosage: Not sure, but I added more than I thought 50 mg looked like just to be safe because I knew that if I broke through I'd sorta pass out anyway so I might as well overpack it.
Time of day: It was around 7 pm.
Location: friend's dorm room
Setting info: since i like crushing the shit out of my ego through these things, I played Hail Mary by tupac. (a song which I consider to be a mixture of trippy and egotistical) The moment I started tripping I realized that it was a bad idea though haha. It was a brightly lit room.
Info on my mind set: I just really wanted to break through. I was scared but my excitement far outweighed my fear. Beyond that I really dont know what was going on in my head, probably not much. A while before this experience I ate 16g of dried blueish shrooms in a bad setting and had a terrible experience which sort of changed me a little. (but not really... cuz once you change enough times u start to realize whats changing is the self-concept and not necessarily the self) My heart had stopped beating (at least I thought it did) and I was in the afterlife. I felt severely poisoned, it was really f'd up, and I'm probably never gonna be excited about doing shrooms again. HOWEVER, I consider the experience to be level 5 as it shared some aspects with this trip.

Anyway, so what basically happened was: I patiently waited for all the dmt to be vaporized, and when it was I cleared the entire chamber in a few hits. After the final hit, I blanked out of reality pretty hard and fell back (onto the comfy bed :3) Now after this point, i dont even know if what I'm about to say is really what happened. I'm 100 % sure that there are many things that happened that I simply don't remember because it was so incredibly fast, but I'll write about stuff that I do remember. I remember entering hyperspace for sure; the rap song that was playing in the background stopped functioning linearly, it would kinda speed up, slow down and go backwards, which was confusing, scary and awesome. Space stopped existing too; I got the same feeling I got from mushrooms of being able to feel and hear through walls. Visually, I almost have no clue what I saw. I think I saw OEVs of like deep sea divers and tube-shaped spotlights that gave me the feeling of being underwater and being observed by some sort of police-type entity. This is really cool now that I think about it, because combined with my apparent ability to hear through walls and the fact that unbeknownst to me, there were cops on the floor walking towards a friends door, I think dmt might have actually given me some sorta ESP for a short period of time. I however, just thought I was really really f**ked up. And that's the thing.. everyone describes dmt as 'divine' and 'magical' and 'leagues beyond other psychedelics' but I didn't feel that way at all. yes, physically I was destroyed, but otherwise it just felt like being catapulted quickly into *certain aspects* of a level 5 trip on shrooms. Anyway, so a few minutes later when the peak subsided and I could think and function normally again, I still had nice, bright visuals of waxy surfaces and weird fractals (different from lsd fractals which are REAL, its almost as if these were illusory but at the same time far more complex) and for the many minutes thereafter, all I could think of was. 'what just happened' It was really cool, don't get me wrong...but thats all it was...cool. I didnt feel enlightened, I didnt feel spiritual, I didn't feel any of the beautiful greater connections I feel on lsd, hell visually in some ways it was far less intense than a high dose of acid! I walked out feeling satisfied in that I no longer compulsively need to break through on dmt, but other than that I really didn't feel different at all.

Is there something wrong with me ? Why am I not having the same beautiful experiences as everyone else ? One of my friends who's broken through before smoked this same batch a week later and still broke through, on a LOWER DOSE, even though he weighs twice as much as I do (even though I dont believe weight is a factor at all) so it really cant be weak dmt. Is there more to dmt ? Should I keep trying or be patient and wait for my moment ? Does my experience sound like a typical trip ?? Or did I not breakthrough ! :O

Thanks for reading !

try ingesting it with harmalas. You might like it alot better.

Just curious about the size of the chamber you're filling with smoke. I've only tried once (good DMT, bad technique on my part) with the machine I made, and I think I need something bigger for now.

Are you vaping the entire 50mg before inhaling?

Wish you luck with your experiences in the future.

Just like Forrest Gump says, "Dmt's like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get." I was doing some testing yesterday from a recent xtract so I partook 3 times. One IV which was underwhelming, the second vaped and freaked out really bad. Scared the crap out of me. I call it a DMT bitchslap. Then the 3rd was vaped, and that was very imformative/theraputic. DMT's definately got a personality!

I would stop doing it in bathroom stalls for starters.
Try no music , set setting are everything .

jayjay if I had to approximate the dimensions of my vape I'd say its about 2 and a half inches in diameter (the base component is a 250 mL chemistry beaker I believe) and 10 inches in height. And yeah, what I would do is I'd slowly heat the dmt until it completely melted, and continue to heat until I couldn't see any more fumes rising from the spice. It's a slow process, but works beautifully when done right.

Guys, these days I'm starting to think that if I really want true breakthrough experiences and knowledge and what not, then I need to upgrade my set and setting.. I read somewhere that simply putting a lot of any psychedelic substance into my body isn't going to give me what I'm looking for, and I think I totally agree, because my shroom experience was so badly executed that even though I had the physical hardware to potentially learn some things, I was too terrified to experience any of it..all i wanted to do was shut everything out and pass out, and to this day I do not remember a large portion of the trip. To that end I think acid is simply the best drug ever, because on many occasions I have done too much acid and freaked out, but I always came out good and euphoric with a bunch of insight. And the one time when I actually did meditate on acid and have a nice setting on a big dose, it was just undoubtedly one of the purest, most novel and most beautiful experiences of my life. I came closer to meeting an entity that day than I ever have on dmt. (i felt a connection to a mean-faced jester who might have been smoking a j or a cigarette lol) O man i remember playing zombies, and then the 'acid function' would sorta shift from my reality to the reality in the game, and consequently I'd start exploring the virtual reality, and it TRULY felt as if acid had 'given life' to my character in the game.

Its so awesome to be able to express myself in here

Is the vaped spice crystallizing on the walls of the chamber while your heating up the rest? Why are you taking "a few" breaths of it if there's one chamber with it all vaped in the chamber? Are you holding it in long enough?

Is there a chance your friend claiming this doesn't really know what he's talking about? I'd still consider it's not a good batch.

The statement: since i like crushing the shit out of my ego" sounds a bit like "spiritual materialism", egotistic pride about ability to overcome one's ego, this may be affecting the outcome, but my concern with that would be more that when you do get a real bite out of it this may increase potential negative experiences. The "howard stern" effect for instance.

Your intuition that you should work on set & setting is probably correct. Keep in mind that set & setting include what is going on in your life. If your life is a disheveled unfocused mess, this is going to affect your experience.

More is not always better.

Try meditation?

before/during

I find much spiritual enlightenment from almost any psychedelic typtamine, ESPECIALLY DMT. However I have had very uninteresting experiences as well, with all of them. DMT gave me a series of life changing spiritual enlightenment and revelation to myself and the universe more than LSD or psilocybin has ever came close to doing. However at first when I smoked DMT I was unimpressed and found LSD to be a lot more interesting. It wasn't in till I finally just got it all together and started breaking through and getting the same entity contact almost five or six times in a row that blew everything I knew out the window about myself, life, and the universe.

If you wish to search for more answers or whatever it is you are looking for through DMT then continue, but if you disbelieve it's abilities or do not have enough interest to care then do not continue. However for most people, almost all people, it can and will change your life and let you see things about yourself that will rearrange your ego and perspective on yourself forever. It's just a matter of time.

Stop "Wanting".

Then give it time, treat it with respect and listen to what it tells you. Try not to compare yourself with others, because it is not really possible and will just mess things up for you. If there is no rush, there will be a rush. Be patient.

sounds to me like your approach to the spice is not right..

u need to respect it and let it guide you, turn off the music, put yourself in a good environment, clear your mind an be open to it. let it show you what it wants to, if your not ready to experience it you will not get anything from it.

i felt ready to journey once and i had a horrible trip with clowns and jesters, very scary. you never know what she will show u.

Either you like strong psychedelics or you don't

Through the most difficult and horrifying experiences I'm still the one inhaling, regardless of the outcome I'll "like" it in the end It's not as much about "liking" as learning and DMT offers no handicap seats, wether you'll want it or not, wether you understand it or not, wether you're ready or not, you'll get it.

Rap music while on an entheogen? Really? At least it was a classic.



I agree with this.

Set and setting, my friend, set and setting.

Thanks for all the input and replies guys !

IneffableThings, I dont have the best lung capacity and i simply could not clear the whole chamber in one hit..I find that unless I push myself to do all of it as quickly as possible, i sort of lose the physical capability to keep going.. I mean on the last hit i try to hold it in as long as possible, but smoking dmt is just so difficult !!

I think im gonna give this another shot..soon..when the time is right

I would agree with a lot of your initial assessments. I don't find DMT particularly spiritual, not as much so as LSD anyway. I'm sure a lot of that has to do with the amouant of time you have in that state.

Actually, was tripping on 4 hits of LSD 2 weeks ago and smoked some DMT. I felt visuals of the two interacting with me. The LSD felt/looked like long tendrils reaching deep into my soul and dusting off everything. The DMT Connected to that and was a outer shell of buzzing swirly things but it didn’t go in so deep.

And yes, trying to get a good enough hit to get far enough out is challenging. Even with a GVG. At least this is true for me!
I wish the inhibiter route was not some complicated.

Still fun to experience it though!

I've had both massive doses of and gnarly mixtures of hallucinogens. IME less is more when it comes to the spiritual aspect. I once took about 50-60 doses of potent clean liquid LSD. I freaked pretty bad, set and setting were awful, I was at a big house party, the last four hours or so of it I don't even remember. Gained mostly fear for the substance, it took me probably 2 years to go for it again. I've had times were with only one or two hits I'm talking to people without words, seeing distant events and speaking to old eternal souls of people I only thought I knew, if that makes any sense. Try not to force those things, its something that will just happen when your prepared. When the student is ready the teacher will appear.