Looking good, I am curious as to why your yield is so low? They look nice but I feel like you should have more crystal Yield.

The containers were decanted and then flipped to dry in the freezer for another 2 hours. Then brought out to dry at room temp to dry but upright and condensation.

The yeild was low
I had not followed the advice of Prepowdered mhrb and adding the extra lye h2o

More pulls in there I am sure! Just taking a break from the fumes. Got headaches

haha me too my first itme. i was screwing with he naphtha inside, ill never do that again. if your evaping without a fan on a window, or outiside, this is a mistake

Ok. So here is an update. I did two more pulls making this about 5 pulls.
I dont have a scale so I cant weigh it. Sorry! I was told this was a poor yeild but I had only done 3 pulls at the time. ^^^

Pull #1 was a writeoff - but just evap. It today
Pull #2 lots of spice (?)
Pull #3 not so much
Pull #4 Let naphtha sit in jar with the mix for maybe 3 days - pulled and it was the best one yet! Spice stuck to the container and tons floating. I just strained it very slowly and the spice settled to the bottom. A bit of goo but 90% was white snow
Pull #5 was much like pull #3 but much more goo and 30% white snow

So I stuck the naphtha run off from pull 1,2 in with 3 and let evap. Now this is confusing. It is like a solid white and when taken out of the freezer to warm it is like a liquid clear but oily looking and smells of naphtha. Do I need to further refine this? I stuck it in the freezer again and took a pic of it.VVVV I have it as one blob on the top right. Not the center huge white (that is a sticker on the bottom of the glass)

I have more naphtha in the mix to see if I can get more out of it, worth a try eh? It is still producing white Xls!

Note: the picture of the spice on the mirror is some of the original pulls 2,3 on the left, center is from 4,5 and goo from mostly 5 on the top right. Sorry its hard to see...

Anyone know what to do with the blob in the last pic? Defat?
Thanks!

#6 extraction pull
Let the naphtha 30ml sit in the jar for 3 days I think it was. Pull was nearly the same amount as all of my 5 other pulls combined!! I wish I has a scale to measure these out. But I have naphtha in the jar for pull #7 ready in a day or two. Pull until no more spice... This is what I should do, right?? How many pulls can I get? It is still nice and white, I can see a bit of colour coming, a tiny amount though.

Oh about the goo blob I let it dry until its like a oily layer that smells of DMT. Dont know what to do with that...

Is anyone following my posts? Should I keep pulling and reporting? After all pulls then do a jim jam? Or leave it and mix another batch for STB?

Pics are of spice in container after it was dry from the freezer. The other pic is of the mirror with more on it. So the right pile is the new #6 pull and the left is 3 others and bottom is goo from leftover pull. Notice the left has so much more!

Bump! Anyone there? Hello o o O O O o o o

how was your 7th pull, you should try to pull some jungle whatever's left.

NO! when going in the direction of the freezer allow the solvent to cool to room temp
put it in the fridge, allow it to cool to fridge cool.

Move it into the freezer freeze it forr 24 hours decant the solvent while it is cold.

as the solvent warms up it absorbs DMT

Just trying to see everything out in order

Ok so if:
Solvent is hot - alow to cool to room temp then to the fridge then freezer for 24 h
Solvent is room temp - put in fridge then freezer for 24h
Solvent is in freezer 24h - take off cover, drain/decant solvent off, flip over and dry in freezer for 2 to 4 h (or until dry)
Solvent is ready to come out of freezer - recap lid on container and move to room temp
Container is room temp after freezer - open and scrape chrystals!

Never take out the container after the flipped freeze and leave unopened exposed to the air and heat or condensation will form and wet your chrystals! If covered when it comes out of the freezer, then you will not get the water condensation. Plus, never let solvent sit in containers at room temp or the chrystals will turn to liquid again.

Yes, me Continue with your reportings please!

I have some questions to you because I think that I will learn a lot with this topic.

- If I'm not wrong, you have recycled the water+NaOH+MHRB everytime for every pull, didn't you? And just adding more g/ml of compounds when it was necessary.
- What did you do with the naphta? Do you have recycled it too?
- Is there any special reason for using a hermetic tupper as a crystallizer?
- When the crystals start appearing at the bottom, you should remove the liquid and let them form? Vaporize a little bit or what? I'm a little bit lost with this step.

Cheers!

So when you do pulls of the naphtha you will recycle the naphtha after the freezer precip is done. So you can add it back to the jar of mix. What I do is have an extra jar for naphtha recycling and just use it later when needed.
As for the water + lye. You just always keep it in the main jar, it never leaves the mix.
I am not sure what that container is that you mentioned. I use glass bottom Tupperware with snap lids for the freezer.
When you are ready to Put them in the freezer. Make sure the lids are tight and put in the fridge for about 10 -20 minutes, then in the freezer for 24 hours.
After 24h then take the lids off, drain the naphtha off carefully so no floating chrystals slide out. Then you can either dry upright or upside down (with no lid).

Any other questions, please feel free to ask!

Sorry to chime so late here, but..




FYI, a fridge/freezer works by using the temperature difference between the inside and the outside of the freezer. The fridge contains coolant that is pumped round in the system by a pump. Outside of the freezer, the coolant is a gas that wants to be a liquid. It needs to give off energy(warmth) to condensate back to liquid. This energy is dispersed by the black grillwork that's on the outside. Inside of the fridge, the coolant is a liquid that wants to be a gas. It needs to draw energy(warmth) from somewhere to vaporize. This energy is taken from the inside of the fridge, effectively cooling or freezing it. The choice of coolant is done by the expected temperature difference between inside and outside of the fridge. For consumer-quality fridges, outside will be room temperature, inside will be 5 to -20 *C. If you put you fridge outside in the freezing cold, the pump will have to work much harder to get the desired temperature difference from coolant that is not changing phase very happily. So you get the same temperature inside(obviously, judging by your ice-cream), but only by using MUCH more electricity to do so. A fridge is so well isolated, that the gain by it being in a cold environment is COMPLETELY overshadowed by its inability to maintain an efficient evaporation/condensation cycle. In other words: your electricity bill is much higher than it could be... Then again, if you're low on space, it's unavoidable. But just just sayin'...


Peace!

You are very good with that technology. Thanks so much!
I only keep it on for 12-24h then unplug it. I don't use it for anything else.
But come to think of it, our bill soared up last month! Wonder if that was it!
Thanks so much!

Yes, I was referring to those tuppers with the lid (airtight, not hermetic, my mistake). Is there any reason to have a container with lid? To prevent flamable vapors, bad smells, contaminations or something?

If I understood you and the process properly, during the step in the fridge the cristals will appear at the bottom of the container, and after that, you can drain the solvent. But after leaving them resting a few to evaporate any solvent which remain, would be a good idea to wash them? (nothing hard, just with distillated water)


Thank you!

The tuppers = tupperwear / the glass bottom with a plastic top that snaps in to place.
The reason why you use a lid is because you dont want smells or it to evaporate (loss of solvent if you want to recycle). Otherwise it is ok to leave lids off.

I think after the solvent has been drained and the solvent is all gone (by leaving it in the freezer), then you can take it out of the freezer (put the top back on) and when room temp, then you can scrape and do a wash. Please refer to the carbonate wash in the tek section.

Ok! All clear. Thanks!

But related to the washing, I was referring to use only distillated water and let them evaporate. Nothing more or related to carbonate (and even if I did, I can't post on another sections because I'm not a full user yet )

So why do you want to wash it?
People re-x as a cleaning method.

There is a re-x in the forum teks section, this method is used to recrystalize your spice to a cleaner spice.
Water I don't think will clean it...

I've read the steps from the DMT wiki, and after that I have just three short questions:

- In your opinion, which is better? Bicarbonate or carbonate?
- When it says "Add alkaline solution to the NPS at a ratio of about 1:4", it means 4 parts of alkaline solution per each part of NPS right?
- Will I have enough time to use the decanter funnel or the crystal will appear just after shaking it? (I ask about this silly thing due to the word "promptly"

Thank you!

You need carbonate. This is done by placing in an oven (I forgot temp and time) and it will convert bicarbonate into carbonate.

The best thing to do is post in general extractions help secton(that's why it's there!). Because these questions are getting a little too much for only one extraction with no cleaning and one breakthrough!

Thanks! Good luck!