Just smoked bowls of un measured spice. The gods wouldnt call for a break through, but when i closed my eyes i could see my family members, moving throughout rooms, morphing into each other.

Everything is a story, and everyone has their own face. I feel like there has always been a 2012.

I feel like my dog understands music, or at least when he dies, he will understand through viewing me and him at the same time. a real tear jerker.

Great!

Take it easy with the "knowing stuff", trust me. These are powerful substances you are messing with, regardless of how many times you were revealed some deep, mystical truth. It's important to stay humble and keep in mind what you are actually using these substances for. If you're doing it to discover knowledge and learn things about the universe, there are better ways to do that, like cracking open a science text book.

I think the best knowledge you can gain is wisdom, and a deeper understanding of consciousness and the human experience. These are the things spice taught/showed me, and it led to a positive change in my life.

What dmtk2852 said ^

The first time I thought I had a breakthrough was at 30mg, the next 35, then 37, 40, 42, 45, 47... My point being, there's always a new level with DMT.

I always try to avoid ever stating things as absolute facts. The reality is, there is no reality. Therefore I allow my thoughts and opinions to be like a river, fluid yet forceful,and always willing to diverge unto a new and different path.

This^^

Take it easy with what you think you know on the basis of experiences from these powerful substances abusedtoaster. Chances are you don't really know at all, especially when it comes to knowledge about the universe.

Why is it too much to say that my being knows all it should know at this given point in time. Isnt this true for all of us? Im not claiming to be some enlightened guru.

Its funny you mention science books, because the perspective seen through spice was beyond all rationale. It is beyond the eye of science. I also experienced a change in my life because everything I knew was destroyed. Destroyed in the sense that well.. spice cannot be comprehended but experienced.

These are two different magisteriums, we can learn a lot about the physical nature of spice through science(chemistry etc.), but we can not understand the spice "trip" through science. I agree on that.

But the flip side is true as well, Spice can not give us scientific knowledge of the universe. It is pointless to try to learn about the universe in that way.

My point being, keep the two separate.

I would have to say that what the spice gave me would be a visionary understanding of science. The very statement to keep the concepts separate is itself a mundane concept evolving out of an ego matrix. When the self is discovered to be the one unified and true reality upon which all frameworks are held, it is the end of knowledge and ignorance. There are no gurus that matter because the one guru is the one and eternal self. At this point you are free to move in the effortless flow of your own hearts grace and yearning. It is seen that without your conscious presence, there would be no perception of anything.

The spice brought in voices of machine operators who sent a specially formulated download of information concerning the spin of the atom being the key to moving into other dimensions from this one. I saw how all the dimensions are stacked into the same space and they only differ by slight changes in the way the atoms move. Because the atoms are mostly empty space, countless realities can be layered together and controlled from one local dome shaped meta-reality street sweeper. The purpose and destiny of the human form is a training environment to build beings who understand 3d and can problem solve by modulating 4d thoughts into a 3d space. Its really that simple. Everything else is a factor of the training or a mental projection arising from the consciousness as identified with a human form (the "i am this body and thoughts" construct).

The end result of this knowledge is stillness, peace, and the sense that everything is moving how it should. That, to me means that I too, now know everything that there is to know. I also happen to know a lot that there isn't to know. But the most interesting is that what I know amounts to nothing!! As nothing, I know nothing and that nothing is in fact everything that exists, and yet that too, is really just no-thing. Its one everything i think. And then I don't think. And that my SPICE FRIENDS is the point. Thinking is a 4-dimentional projection about 3-dimentional objects. Unless there are thoughts that are about thoughts, then those enter the 5-D space (the meditative realm). Salvia moves from 5-d to 6-D and Spice goes beyond the 6 into a 7th and beyond. You are the super-string fractal that contains the trip, the tripper, and the world. You, sacred dimensionless spirit are all that there is or ever will be and these appearances exist to bring you back to yourself.

Superheros might battle villains but you are the pages, the ink, and the artist.

great post AtomicSubime

"Its really that simple," I would have to disagree. Reflecting the fourth dimension into 3rd requires transcendence of worldly matters, concentration, patience, and spirit. If that is your state of being; Holy Shit. The concept of "being one" is still incomprehensible to me. The furthest I've gotten was embedding myself in the existence of everything inhabiting the world harmoniously, but not as one. The dimensions I've had the pleasure and confusion of seeing could not be explained by science. The way they even related to science was the way light was being received by my eyes. And how much of it was taken in.

More experience and a deeper delving will take me further

It is not black and white either. Though spice is more intuitive, and science is more technical, trying to find how they relate may be quite interesting. I would say its not pointless, but it is more for the self and not for"truth." Or for your personal truth.

Here's some food for though:

"One thing I know is that I know nothing"
~Socrates

^^

what he said.

I agree they may relate in some aspects but you cannot equate things you see in the spice realm to be science.

They aren't, this isn't a matter of semantics, science requires a hypothesis, observations made upon that hypothesis, and eventually testing and review by other scientists. When this process is repeated enough times, you get a theory.

Spice provides observations, but they are internal and cannot be externalized(spice trip is different for everyone). Furthermore, supernatural explanations for anything aren't valid in science. You may be able to "prove' knowledge to yourself that you gained during a spice trip. But you will never, be able to extend that knowledge to the external world like you can do with science.
You can try to argue with me on this but you won't succeed. They really are 2 seperate fields, and for a thorough understanding of the universe you should try and keep the ideas seperate in your mind. For some it helps to think of spice as a spiritual realm. I simply don't think of it anyway as I don't fully understand what is going on in a spice trip, and I don't fool myself into thinking that I have any clue what hyperspace is.

But hey, to each their own.

So, we agree!

I "know" everything, I just can't remember it all right now...

If anyone does know it all and remembers, could you please PM me next week's winning lottery numbers?

From a more "typical" perspective on "knowing everything"....from my experience, the only times I've felt "now I'm getting somewhere; now I feel like I'm learning something" are when I have even a small conception OF HOW MUCH I DON'T KNOW.

I really do think those are the only times you're having anything near SOME, REASONABLE grasp of what you know and what you don't.