Got some 20x salvia today and was anxious to try it (first time). But after seeing utube vids of people jumping out windows ect. I wanted a babysitter. So I went to a friends to do it, but changed my mind cause their was just too much going on over their. So I grabbed my dmt pipe with 30 mgs. melted on it and walked to the park and sat in the wood and blasted off. That was my first time doing it outdoors. It was awesome with the sun setting through the trees and feeling one with nature. But it sure was cold out! I'll be waiting till spring to do that again.

I'm still deadset on trying the salvia tonight, but now I'm going to be alone... And I am on a second floor! I've only really lost my composure 1 time in my life on a drug, but that was also a large dose of angeldust. I should be alright if I just take 1 bonghit and lay down right? I want to do it alone so I can experience it's full effects. Does that sound ok for a first timer? I really don't want to hear 'no', but if that's the truth.... I guess I'll get a sitter.

Eitherway, I'll post the results

OK nevermind, I'm going to my girls house to do it. I'll still share the results...

Good luck. Stay calm and remember.. Setting is EVERYTHING with salvia. A comfortable mind makes a comfortable experience. Looking forward to the report!

OK, I have to admit last night was the most profound, freakiest experience I think I ever had. I was in a good mind set, and packed about half a cone of salvia in the bong. Took a huge hit that pretty much cashed it and held it in atleast 20 seconds

What happened next I could never explain in words. For one, I did'nt even realize I did a drug. I died. I was in some kind of afterlife/another world. I was floating through this tube with diagonal holes in the sides. I kept climbing out of the holes, and whenever I did I would realize I was dead and my soul was a slave to who or what ever was outside that tube. They would be like all happy when the seen me pop out of these holes in the tube.
But I'd only pop out of those holes very briefly before I'd be sucked back into another one and back in that tube/tunnel. And the tunnel was a dark,strange place. So I kept swimming back out those holes in the side of it, actually from what I recall, I did'nt have a choice. I was kinda being sucked back in and out.

Finally I popped back out of one of the holes and started to come to (thank God). I was in a different room of the house. It did seem like a really short experience regardless. I actually smoked sally for the first time the night before for the first time but I was on dmt so it did'nt seem as intense. (already reported that experience). I actually thought it would'nt be all that because I was strait last night. haha Boy was I wrong! Or maybe it was the dose.?.

Either way, NEVER again without a babysitter!

This happens to me with salvia considerably more than with DMT. With salvia within seconds, I have no idea what's going on, how I got here, why existence is like this, or anything. Even if I realized that I took a drug, I'll have a hard to impossible time figuring out which drug it was, and even if I somehow manage to figure out that I took a drug called salvia, I've been like, "salvia...what's that do?" With DMT, I usually remember that I've taken DMT and can make the clear connection as to why these magnificent things are taking place. "Worse case scenario" in this kind of department of thinking with DMT that I've personally experienced is that I get so caught up in everything, that I've mildly forgotten that I took DMT, but it's not really like I was questioning what was happening around me anyway. Should I have to ask myself the question, "why is this happening?", it's always pretty obvious I must have smoked some DMT.

With DMT, I personally don't need a sitter (though I've been journeying with my brother lately) because I've A) never had a traumatic or harrowing experience (even the bad and "scary" ones usually end well if I'm patient enough to wait out the storm) and B) because with DMT, you're very unlikely to get up and start moving around in a breakthrough. The opposite for many, including myself seems to be true with salvia. The experiences have been downright terrifying and people (including myself apparently) are likely to get up and start moving around, even if they're completely unaware of it. "Sally D Zombie Syndrome" I call it. I think a big reason for this discrepancy between out of body experiences on DMT and salvia stems from the kinds of tactile sensations that one has during the out of body experiences on the two different entheogens. On DMT, I find out of body experiences to be rather uplifting with vibratory sensations, or simply the feeling of freedom or gentle detection of all the patterns around you as being a part of you. With salvia on the other hand, part of what creates so much confusion is the distortions of tactile sensation such that anything that comes in touch with my body, including my clothes, the couch, the floor, myself, whatever often gets melded together or melted into. These sensations are so odd, bizarre and discombobulating with sometimes full mergers into whatever it is you're seeing or touching such that you're completely unaware that your body is up and about because all of the sensory input gets blended together so you're trying your best to navigate the new reality you find yourself in, or just having trouble "holding it altogether" such that your body can be off and about moving about, touching new things and further ensuing in confusion.

In one case, I was at my friend's house and I was sitting on a recliner in the living room where I took my hits. I was in the full throws of salvia visions, and when I came to, I was sprawled out on the coffee table having knocked all our stuff off the table (we put all the contents of our pockets on the table specifically to avoid them creating odd tactile sensations during the experience). Apparently before I landed on the coffee table, I was attempting to climb the bookcase according to my two friends. While I had no recollection of trying to climb a bookcase, what had been going on in my vision was that I kept on falling through the floor. So I would fall through the floor into one scene and then hit the floor and fall through it to the next and so on and so forth, so this must have been when I was clawing at the shelves on the bookcase. All of my salvia experiences have been with extremely potent extracts, but I just got myself my own Salvia Divinorum plant that I will be fostering a relationship with, so we'll see how my future salvia experiences go. Point of the story is, a sitter is definitely a must with salvia (especially at high doses or with potent extracts).

Thanks Global. That was very imformative. I keep thinking about last night. It was just soo freaky wierd I can't comprehend it. IMO it puts you furthur out their than DMT, and I've vaped 80mgs in 2 hits and that just totally shattered me, but it was tolerable. I did'nt know I existed but I still thought I was alive. I seriously thought I was dead and in another place on the sally. I'm really taking a break from both now. Atleast a week. I did DMT for the first time like 4 months ago now and the longest I have gone without it was 4 days once so..... Good thing these substances only last minutes. Imagine being on a really freaky sally breakthrough like 8 hrs.?