the first time one of my close friends tried dmt they were on mdma not alot but enuf to feel the effects, after he hit the dmt he said he had such an overwhelming body experience tht like nothing he has every had before( he has tried it several times since and with no where as close results) but he really kinda freaked out which is common on dmt but it was an uncommmon frek out if you know what i mean i was more overwhelmed than anyhting he couldnt talk or open his eyes just hold on to the couch as if it was the only thing keeping him on earth and the experience lasted upwards of 15 or 20 minutes which i thot was uncommonly long for the peak of a dmt trip.

so basically im asking if anyof you guys had similiar experiences or know of any with any combination of MDMA or MDA with DMT( even whatever other drugs you have tried it with spice) and the experiences that followed

That's normal.

Damn that'd be intense Rollin gives you a pretty bigg body high and low amounts of dmt gives you 10x more powerfull body high and that's prolly why I probably would never hit spirt smoke while Rollin lol.

Since you asked for similar/other interactions, here's mine with MDAI (Very similar to MDMA) https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=26384

I recently had my first MDMA in few years, I was saving some quality material to share with my wife when she was done with nursing our second son. It was worth waiting for to say the least.

Whilst in the midst of the MDMA high (about 180mg worth for each of us), I rolled up a very slim bit of Tobacco (a nice push for MDMA's vibe), into which I sprinkled a fairly minute amount of DMT infused Cannabis. Tobacco can be a powerful ally for me when I need it, but isn't a regular habit. It seems to offer a benefit to dialog, hence the peace pipe rituals of lore.

So we shared the slim combination joint. I distinctly felt a wonderful rush of body buzz I associate with the DMT, and the wave of Tobacco. In addition, some beautiful dimensionality was added to the already very empathic situation. I perceived these crackling sparks of electrical energy moving through her face and my hands, and as the somewhat sort lived effects of the smoke faded, the energy seemed more grounded and balanced, but still very high. We had a great time sharing some things we had not talked about before, reconnecting our love and sense of trust and commitment to each other. The DMT seemed to add a sensual erotic edge from that point on as well, facilitating a very slow, sweet love-making towards the later part of the MDMA high.

I didn't want to try a larger DMT amount so as not to get to far out from the intent of the session being about the relationship between us, but imagine that it could be quite wonderful, especially in that MDMA takes away so much fear and anxiety for me. What a shame that MDMA is so hard to find in pure enough form to bother with!

yeah man Ive experienced amphetamines -> mdma, methamph & amt (very similar to amphs imo) all in combination with smoked dmt.
With Mdma and Meth... pretty much instantly after exhaling was a sudden rush of uncomparable feeling to any substance taken.
It was like basically four seconds after inhaling, I was completely taken over by the dmt (aka. in hyperspace). Very quick and unexpected.
The difference between simply plainly smoking DMT, was the feeling of an underlying rush present from being on a stimulant.
This feeling completely erased my awareness of consciousness while in hyperspace.

Now, most people will say well... thats what DMT is supposed to do... but not really, I dont think.
Ayahuasca is a completely different story... a strong enough dose, and even at certain points of a standard dose, during the trip... very often, one may completely lose awareness of they're actual existence -> which means total, conscience-absent, immersion.

But with smoked, even if I really overdo it, I still tend to usually have some sort of underlying idea of the fact that Im in the material world - sitting on my couch.
No matter how deep and completely overwhelmed you may be, a smoked dose never really takes hold of you 100% (imo).

So going back to the amphetamines: What i found with this heavy rush underneath the tripping on DMT, was that it just completely clouded my awareness of body and consciousness. It was complete immersion, as well as very, VERY fast hallucinations - like image after image after image.
To some people reading this maybe, they might think, well... that seems like a usefull combination to go deeper...? Not really.
Let me just say... With every one of those listed substances I tried in combination with DMT... not only did I come out of hyperspace with an unbelievably fast
(& SCARY!) heart rate, but I also came out of it with absolutely 0% recollection of what I had experienced. Usually you have some sort of grasp on some of the imagery you saw and AT LEAST an impression of how enjoyable the experience was. With this combination - there was nothing.
So unless you were on a very generiously low dose of a stimulant, I would say its an entirely useless combination.

But yes, I confirm there was a definite, extreme rushing effect from combining the two unlike anything Ive experienced before (although dangerous seeming).
And from what I know... one of the biggest warnings and well known aspects of smoking DMT is that it boosts your heart rate realtively quickly, for a short period of time. Which is why, not only would it be seriously unadvised to combine with any stimulant, but also with any downer as well.
Stressing your heart like that is probably the most commonly known way to get a heart attack.

wow mack sounds alot more intesne than plainly dmt and mdma