swim is looking to complete a first extraction using the acacia confusa root bark, looking to follow one of the methods found here, one STB method https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=6619 or the Shaggy jungle method that should be more well known.

These tuts were designed and measured based upon the use of mimosa, swim wanted to know if their would be any major differences that should be considered or if using these methods with acacia should go as directed.

My first extraction was with Acacia. Used the DMT Handbook (written for Mimosa) and it worked out well. Yielded about 4gs from 500gs of inner root bark. I'm not very familiar with STBs or Shaggy's tek, but I'd assume it would still work just as well.

In relation to the yield expected from the intended mimosa usage, was the acacia extraction yield similar?

I'd say better. The Handbooks says that with 2 kilos of Mimosa you can expect a yield of about 13.4 grams (about .67%) whereas we got approx. 4 grams from 500 grams of confusa bark (about .8%).

SWIM followed the shaggy extract and extracted a orange/yellow oil, its DmT for sure, SWIM had heavy bodyload but no visual, likely related to ineffective method (quick hot spoon test). SWIM wanted to know how to go about turning this oil into a crystal or powdered form that would prove easier to work with.

You could try recrystallizing it, though I'm not sure how it would work when beginning with and oil (I'm also pretty new to extractions).

swim followed shaggys process and after toluene evap + acetone wash, was rewarded with goo the smelled strongly of dmt, scraped it up and it formed a clay-ish mound, quite mallaeble and pale orange in color.

when hot spooned, and used in iolite handvape effects felt but no breakthrough, swim purchased eclipse h20 vape for more effiecient use of spice. today when SWIM vaped product had a very harsh chemical taste not previously present, the vapor hurts swims chest and lungs sharply. what could have gone wrong? pain lingers...

EDIT

from smell swim thinks the extracted oil/clay matter still has toluene caught in it even after a dry air evap, followed by a 2nd attempt to evap with heat. how can swim go about purifying the spice

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Redissolve your spice in drinking ethanol or some clean acetone and let it re evaporate again, it should help getting rid of toluene traces. Also, check out this thread:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=11715

though swim had already dissolved/evaped in acetone, it was done again for the sake of trying, still ended up with the similar clay (tan waxy) like matter, that still had a chemical smell when vaped (for background the eclipse h20 vape, uses a butane flame on the outside of a glass jar to heat the spice, then air is pulled through creating the vapor; it is connected to a waterpipe)

few things:
1. swim didnt notice any of the chemical taste when hot spooned, or used in iolite vape, achieved pre-breakthrough effects even, but this was a day before. could oxidation have affected my spice negatively?

2. when used in eclipse, the vape(possibly smoke) is too harsh to administer effective dosages, the chest/lung reaction indicates that there is something adulterating the spice that one should not consume, body load, slight swirled visual effects noted. Since swi, didnt notice this taste before could it be a safe assumption that possibly this method is heating the spice too hot, burning off adulterants that would have been unnoticeable with the other methods, is it worth another test run in the iolite ?

3. This is extracted using a jungle spice technique, but Acacia bark was used insted of mimosa, swim cant find any information related to possible jungle alks even being found in acacia, could swim have extracted an unusable/toxic/etc substance along with the dmt?

4. knowing the method and materials used, acacia bark>citric acid+water>lye+water>5x toluene pulls>acetone wash what else is there that could be adultering the spice? (assuming the multiple acetone washes should have dissolved/evaped all the toluene)

Yeah burnt spice creates a very nasty taste, might even form toxic compounds. Im not sure about the eclipse vape. How does it heat, by convection (hot air) or by conduction (the hot glass that touches the spice or similar) ? conduction usually results in more burnt spice.

The vaporizing pipe I have experience with is the GVG, which is expensive but really effective for vaporizing, with a very smooth taste. You can also try to build your own vaporizing pipe like the inspirator mkII by amorfati (check the wiki).

If you used acetone, I guess most toluene should have evaporated, though it does have a pretty high bp so you might have to repeat the acetone step twice or so.

it heats by conduction, (see attached photo), the torch flame heats glass/material, then u draw air through. swim found a few raving post here and decided to go with it, it seems at the very least a well liked option.

swim didnt get this taste using other methods, so the method may be the problem, works fine with hashish, swim going to load the iolite and test extract, if it works well swim will be sure that it is the technique being used with the eclipse burning dmt instaed of vaporizing.

I would suggest doing a full A/B extraction on this material in the future. While STB type extractions may work fine, they will also extract oils, lipids, and other compounds that would be eliminated with a full A/B. The reason STB extraction works on MHRB is because these compounds are in fairly minute quantities in MHRB. Other material will be different.

swim followed the shaggy tek
which was believed to be an acid/base extraction. swim was however indeed worried about the different alks or other substance that this tek which was designed to pull jungle from mimosa, would pull from the acacia confusa. a search didnt net much insight into this.

..i always recommend A/B for acacias (not STB) ..Dozuki's thread here is about the final word on A/B..

this.. was a good A. confusa tech, as too was ..this..

swim was finally the able to test again in the iolite hand vape, dosage of 125mg (swim= ~250lbs) achieved breakthrough without negative aspects, swim therefore must conclude that eclipse vape was used improperly and was in fact burning dmt, which created the chemical harshness noted before.

Good News however, this means swim has completed a first extraction, left with 2.8g of tan waxy smt, and another .7g honey orange oily extract left in test tubes from acetone wash. all from 200g of blender grounded acacia bark, swim supposes that this is a fair yield correct?

..stem bark is reported at 0.6-0.9% (perhaps higher); root-bark at up to 2.85% alkaloids, usually a mixture of DMT/NMT...

swim used root bark, that comes in at at about 1.7%, still not acetone washed all the pans used hopefully more extract will manifest

switched to a regular lighter instead of the butane torch, spice vapes perfectly in eclipse h20 vape, its extreme...

Which lacks a de-fat and I would consider more akin to a STB.

I didn't know A. confusa was such a high yeilder.