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Iforgotmyface
#1 Posted : 2/2/2012 7:46:18 PM

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On the 16th me and my girlfriend are journeying into the world of Mimosa Hostilis and Syrian Rue. Both of us are pretty highly experienced in psychedelics and are really looking forward to this new experience.
I've taken a great deal of effort to educate myself for the past few weeks on Ayahuasca traditions, preparations, and everything else there is to know about DMT in general. We are both nervous, yet excited.
I know it's not exactly the traditional preparation, but I've read countless experiences and preparations and think that the 7-8g hostilis 3-4g Rue will be what I decide to go with. Any opinions/ advice for administering a dose for a smaller girl only about 110? I'm not sure if I should prepare two brews and make a less potent brew for her, or if I should stick with the same dose and just have her drink a little less than me. What are your thoughts?

Well, anyway. Since i don't have any prior DMT experience, I'll give you all a story about the first time I stepped into hyperspace through Salvia Divinorum..

Prior to obtaining a small vial of 50x salvia, I had done some research on its effects, and its chemistry and science.
It's safe to say, however, that nothing could have prepared me for what I experienced on this fateful day.

I had brought the salvia to try it out with some friends. Of whom I was comfortable with and trusted.
We all gathered around in a room with a 2 foot bong and decided to take turns. I was first.

I loaded up a rather small bowl, nervous, and took it all in. I held it until I couldn't anymore and all I really got from this was sort of a goofy feeling.
As I sat waiting for it to fully hit me, My friend then took a hit and seemed to be fully experiencing its effects.
Out of disappointment of my last hit, I decided to pack in a rather massive bowl with the idea that I needed much more than my previous dose.
This turned out to be a risky move. I took in a gigantic hit of salvia 50x on top of the minor effects from my previous hit, stood up, and it began.
As I stood up, a friend snatched the bong away from me and I remember him saying "dude, you shouldn't be standing up right now" the next thing I remember, the walls began to wobble and what happened next can only be described as some sort of hinge that attached itself to the middle of my forehead and this hinge shut like so ---> /'\ <--- as it shut over my eyes, everything went black.

I woke up in a completely alien universe, time seemed to be racing all around me in film strip like waves. Everything was moving so fast. In this universe I had no body. I existed as my soul.
I was terrified, as I had no idea what brought me here or why. I figured I had to have died. As I tried to get out of this place I was floating along what seemed to be a cube, a floating cube about the size of a small room across on all sides. I would make it to the end of this cube and continue floating around this rapidly busy "planet" full of "things" and "thoughts" racing in and out of my mind and all around me. There were tall cylindrical and rectangular pillars which shot out of this planet and as I would run past them I would look up at them and see my friends faces on them staring at me. I tried to speak, but was unable to do so. This continued for another few moments.

As things started to "calm down" a bit, I remember sitting down in a corner and trying to relax.. I felt my face melt to my leg, as well as my tongue unscrew out of my mouth.
This was a rather uncomfortable feeling. I tried to get up and leave the room where all of my friends were still laughing at me and was held from the door. This made me very nervous and uncomfortable so I pushed past them and left. I went outside and sat in the cool air and stripped down to my shorts as I was sweating badly from this intense plunge into the unknown. I calmed down enough to where I felt comfortable returning to the house.

Everything after that was fine, but one thing I learned from this trip was that in using these kinds of substances, set, setting, and the people you trust to be with you are everything.
This experience honestly scared the balls out of me, and I contribute most of it to the fact that I surrounded myself with people I did not truly trust or feel comfortable with. Salvia made this frighteningly obvious.
Since that day I used up the rest of my salvia, but in a more respectful, conscientious way. Since then, Its showed me a level of trust. Not just with others, but with the plant itself and so far have not had any other negative trip with it.
If you don't trust your set and setting, you sure as hell can trust the spirit of the plant to punish you for it and show you the negativity surrounding you.

I feel like in this sense, my upcoming Aya experience will be similar in regards to the trust and respect issues as well as the importance of set and setting.

I plan on using a pretty strong dose in my mimosa brew as to fully experience its effects, as does my girlfriend.
With that being said, what are some similarities and differences between a salvia experience and an Ayahuasca experience if any of you have experience in both?


 

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mad_banshee
#2 Posted : 2/3/2012 2:56:32 PM

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Iforgotmyface wrote:

With that being said, what are some similarities and differences between a salvia experience and an Ayahuasca experience if any of you have experience in both?




There is a big difference between salvia and DMT in that DMT is a much higher energy experience.

I would recommend that someone should smoke it first to get the short duration 10 minute experience rather than jump into an hours long experience, or start with low doses.
Have you ever used mushrooms or lsd? If you're not ready for experiences that last hours it might be more than you bargained for.
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Iforgotmyface
#3 Posted : 2/3/2012 8:44:15 PM

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mad_banshee wrote:
Iforgotmyface wrote:

With that being said, what are some similarities and differences between a salvia experience and an Ayahuasca experience if any of you have experience in both?




There is a big difference between salvia and DMT in that DMT is a much higher energy experience.

I would recommend that someone should smoke it first to get the short duration 10 minute experience rather than jump into an hours long experience, or start with low doses.
Have you ever used mushrooms or lsd? If you're not ready for experiences that last hours it might be more than you bargained for.


My first plan was to do an extraction for the freebase DMT, but me and my girlfriend both decided that the more navigable world of the ayahuasca experience sounds like it has much more learning potential and we want to get the full experience out of it. Me and her are both very familiar with psychedelics. We've both had many experiences with LSD as well as mushrooms.
 
mad_banshee
#4 Posted : 2/4/2012 2:07:55 AM

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Iforgotmyface wrote:


My first plan was to do an extraction for the freebase DMT, but me and my girlfriend both decided that the more navigable world of the ayahuasca experience sounds like it has much more learning potential and we want to get the full experience out of it. Me and her are both very familiar with psychedelics. We've both had many experiences with LSD as well as mushrooms.


Oh! Well then enjoy! I'm guessing you will really like the DMT experience!

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Iforgotmyface
#5 Posted : 2/4/2012 5:14:10 AM

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mad_banshee wrote:


Oh! Well then enjoy! I'm guessing you will really like the DMT experience!



Thanks! So I take it you're pretty familiar with ayahuasca? have you tried the Mimosa / Syrian Rue combination?
 
 
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