Ok I am doing a Nomans extraction with MHRB

50g Lye + 750ml water shook to clear
Added 50g MHRB prepowdered

I am looking at a soupy honey kinda thing.. it is near black.
Is this ok? or add more water + lye?

I thought I would try it out and see if it wasnt too thick. But I am thinking it is. So I will have to add more water and Lye.

Then add 50 - 75ml naptha and 1 hour rolling on the floor now and then. Then 1 hour just setting. Then pull.

Do I have to do 1 hour of rolling and let sit for 1 hour for each pull? (before puting pulls in the freezer for 12 hours)

Well I added about 80ml naptha to see what it looks like. Just rolled it. going to keep doing that for the next hour and then let it sit.

Edit:
Rolling, rolling and it seems to not be getting emulsions.
The thick murk clings to the glass for a long time but seems to settle down after a while.

I have found that 15 minute rolling/mixing is more than enough per pull... just let it stand until you have complete separation and siphon off.

With 80ml of naphtha you will probably have to evap it down a bit before crystals will precipitate. If you blow on the naphtha, you should see wisps of white clouds forming. the cloudier your naphtha gets before putting in the freezer, the better...

PS, naphtha gets more cloudy the more you evap...

Ok. Thanks. I will let it settle and then try a pull and see what colour it is. Hard to see the colour in this jar.
I think some naptha will get stuck in the jar too because of how thick the soup is.

Edit.
Jar is on the speaker pumping trance music bass beats. Gettin the groove deep in the jungle juice

Ok. So it isnt showing any sign of colour. Its clear. So I think I have to add more water lye mix in. sucked up some of the goop and it was THICK in the evaporator tray. poured back the naptha and wiped down the tray with tissue.

Love it, keep postomg these pic(not many who show pictures, text can be so boring someimes)

so I added 150ml water and 10g lye to the mix. seems to have thinned out nicely now.
Just added two more pics after the water lye add. ^^^^^

Edit: pulled some very light yellow naptha and evap. it a bit. Also added 50ml (or so) more naptha to the mix and rolling it lightly.

So did two pulls. One on the bottom was 1st and 2nd on top. Seems the top one has more colour. We will see what I get in the morning. However this wont be ready until later in the night (tomorrow for me)

Well it is late and have to get up early. Thanks guys!

Yes thanks for the pics! Im a visual person & find this really helpful
Gooood luck!

Sure. But you would like to wait to see if it was a success first right?

BTW extraction update in the freezer, little white floaties now 6 hours after.

that's a great yellow cloudy pull; what i get every time, you should be seeing some nice white crystals coming out of pull #1

if your only pulling with 50ml naptha, i have never bothered to evap (takes some time and stinks) just make sure your freezer is on the coldest it can go.

@mooshypeaches- Yup. Well I hope so! Just hope for the best on my first extraction... Freezer is mega cold! I cranked the freezer and fridge to max and it is in my cold winter garage. This would freeze ice cream to a solid brick! This fridge is dedicated to just extractions

I put the jar in the warm laundry room over night and I was rolling it and noticed a lump of goop is in there. Like as if when I added the extra water+lye in to the mix, it poured around the sides and left a lump! I am thinking I am going to have to get in there and stir it.
I might have to warn people of this later. Prepowdered bark needs more water+lye! Adding water+lye later once naphtha is in there is no good! It won't mix properly...

Edit:
Did pull #3 and it was totally clear. So I mixed the soup with a whisk and then dumped back in the naphtha and rolled it. Let me tell you, there was a HUGE lump of goop that was not mixed from not enough water. Man this can be a pain! Listen to the exports! 1.5 - 2 x water lye. For every gram of lye, you need 15ml of water. Once you put in the naphtha it is hard to mix the new water.


Update: Super cloudy mix with tons of white floating all over in the precip containers. At 8 hours now.
3rd pull went in.

good work keep us updated,and don't forget to save your basified aqueous solution for jungle spice if you want it . but you never what you like until you've tried it.

For sure! I am willing to pull all I can out of this.

Just wish I had a digital scale... I have an analog one for the kitchen. Measures fine but I can measure my dose!
Question: how can I eyeball doses? Like they say a dose of 30mg is the size of a match head. So half might be a good start? Or should I be waiting to get a digital scale?

Can someone explain this to me... is this process done after all your pulls with naptha? thanks!

update.
The precipt containers are all cloudy but not much falling out. So I took the lids off and going for a complete evap. I don't care about solvent loss, as its like $7 or less for 2L of naphtha.
Like dtrypt was saying to evaporate and then would get cloudy. This will give me everything its got.

So I put more naphtha in the mix and found it was still very dark when rolling it, so I added 100ml with about 10g or less of lye. Looks good now and going to do some rolls and pulls in the morning. Over 24 hours for the first pulls and 12 for the 3rd.

Just wanted to mention some things. pulling with a huge baster will get 1-2 draws then use an eye dropped to draw up the rest, takes a bit of time but works best. The other thing is if you suck up some base black solution, do not worry. Spit it back in with the baster and start that faster step again. If you do happen to have some solution mix with the naphtha in the glass evap try, the just wait like a few seconds and tip the container and get toilet paper and wipe it clean. or dump in to another containor.

That's a tough one and not the best idea. Best to get a scale with at least 0.00mg resolution.

I'm sure a match head's worth is less than than 30mg, so it would probably be a good amount to start with if you really cannot get your hands on a scale...

@ Dtrypt- ok, yeah I was meaning to get one but they are hard to find. I can find them online and meet locally. In time. Want to trip at least once before getting the scale, so then a match head is ok then. Cool, thanks!

@boogerz- jungle spice is another part of the mix you can get with another solvent like d-lemonene. Naphtha just takes out the white and yellow goodies. But there are more darker goodies that can come out. Some people are scared of the jungle spice & jim-jam for its intense dark, maybe even spooky feel and visuals. Might even be close to ayahuasca feelings (but not sure on that one)

So I strained out the remainder of the naphtha out of the precip containers. let it sit in there until dry. then took them out and dried them in the heated room. I noticed that condensation forms in the precip containers when it reacts to heat. maybe the fridge after the freezer might have helped.
OK so I don't have a scale so i can't measure the pulls, only pictures. VERY white x-tals!
this is 3 pulls. pull # was nothing, no idea why. 2nd was the most and 3rd had just a bit less.
I have more pulls to do, I know there is more!
Note: sorry about the containers on the carpet. I thought it would look nice but it looks like contamination but it isn't! just focus on pure white stuff!

Tried some of it and it was so smooth...

Yeah, the insides of the containers should not be exposed to room temperatures until they warm up to room temperature. When the containers are removed from the freezer, the naphtha should be quickly decanted/strained, and then re-cover the containers and turn them upside down until they reach room temperature. If a lil' bit of naphtha is still in the containers, best to let it out while upside down at room temperature. Then the containers may be opened to allow any remaining naphtha to evaporate.