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Saint123
#1 Posted : 1/29/2012 5:58:51 PM
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This is translated from norwegian to english (I'm norwegian, so i wrote it at that language first because im also online at another forum thats based in norwegian)

Cosmic torture - DMT
Cosmic torture is written in order to have something and look back on something and remember, something to learn from ...

Who: Saint123
Location: At home with me
Setting: Underestimated.
Dose: 120mg dmt = N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT)

I try and make an attempt to describe it by far the craziest, scariest and most rewarding DMT trips I've ever had. (At least for now). It may not be possible and render it important, but I still feel I have to share it with anyone, it would be myself for having something to read back on later in time, or if it's you who might learn something out of it. I dont know.

I sit there on the edge of my bed. Have a duvet behind me, it is possible and just sit back and I will be all over the bed.
I can just say I'm very glad I had a bed nearby, if not - No, it would go wrong.
My heart pounded before I start and pull in, something tells me that there might be a bit large dose. I have nothing negative, and think "oh" and drive on.
Generally, double-check to myself before I take something and did it as this time too. Is it like that I'm skeptical about it, I choose rather to let the weather.

I pull all the white plastic-smelling smoke into. I do not think I spent more than a breath, my lungs are said qualified as leather lungs so this is good. At the beginning of my "career with DMT" it was very common and coughing out the smoke, but after being turned to this is that as I said pretty good.
Furthermore, it is also something about the way you vaporizer it, the better - the easier to pull down .. at least that way I have experienced it.

I have time do not really react much, I exhale the smoke in that it begins and shake in the body. While I blow out I lie flat (sitting on the edge when I pulled in).

I sent through something, the something of something, something inside and outside simultaneously. The room I was in the extract and can not really qualify as what we usually describe as a room. Maybe it was not a room but a tunnel, maybe it was not a tunnel, but a different universe, whatever it was relatively unimportant.

The colors went inside each other like you never could imagine without actually having been there. It dominated in blue, red and yellow, this time as so many other times when I have smoked this magic ingredient as well.
All was quiet in this room, and was really just more and more quiet.

If I explain it in any way I want you to imagine a scale from 0 to 10 Where 10 is the loudest sound that exists and 0 the quietest you arrive. When I was in this room, the sound was so quiet that it blew up this skala'en, the sound was -10 which is the quietest of the quietest in this reality.

The time perspective was completely destroyed during the trip, I could never imagined that the whole thing would only last 10-15 minutes when it actually feels like an eternity where I am. The colors began to fight each other, forming different shapes or what I might want to associate with self-transforming elves. They, or the åssen to define them is explained quite well by himself Terence McKenna - I also choose to use his words as I do not have described it with my own.
(Read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_elf)

There were two of them. Both irritated at me, both had something to view, and both had absolutely nothing to teach me. It started when they changed the colors faster than what I normally see for me is most rapid. They had no particular facial expressions, and it was really quite difficult to look for as they turned his face the other way every time I tried.
It seemed also that the more I watched, the more was I had to pay for it.

Machine elves or for that matter DMT entity also made it difficult for me to actually know if there was no face on them, since in this world is not certain that you need some head to actually exist. By all means it could just be the color of life itself, as in all eternity was selvforandrende.

It got to the point where I thought, hell, I have taken too much.
It is usually not easy for me and being present in mind, but in 2 seconds, I thought that thought before everything else was too much for me.
I could not give up as I normally do when I go "in the" on dmt, when I actually had to give up very many times this time. It was exhausting in the extreme and at one point I thought - Am I almost done?
I breathe now no longer, the thought was that I actually managed to give up all control and then after that happened so the worst case that could see. I think actually that I could have imagined anything worse either, since some of it has never been in my mind.

My body was set on fire by cosmic chaos, all colors, energies, elves, things, entities or whatever flew through my body, over and over again. There was a burning light ball inside the body that went exactly where it knew I would get the most pain. First the head, then the feet, so the stomach, then in the back, and further tortured this burning thing myself while these two elves stood there and "walked" from each side of my face. Feet it's like it obviously was not, but of words to be able to describe what I choose still use the body part that most natural explanation.
They stepped on me in what I call the eternity of this universe, while it burns and I can hear the sounds of things that are, and "laugh".
They communicate in a way that you usually do not associate with communication, or perhaps - Whatever thoughts they have about me, transfer them to my mind, what they say is that I have crossed a boundary that is large, and therefore I must understand that this is not something you just do. They tried other words and say that this dose was poorly planned and therefore you shall have to pay for everything bad you've done to others as a punishment for your thoughts about coming here.

I can "see" to me that the common reality that we all normally live in consists of a lot of things, and that thoughts are actually placed somewhere for a purpose. What I really try and say is that the more karma you have, the greater the likelihood of a better turn this "Cosmic" world dmt takes you. Have you collected a lot of bad karma you get this printed in all sorts of forms when you get "there". Furthermore, I believe that all the negative thoughts people may have about you, you will be punished with, the reason is good NOK for this negative thought to another man.

In this entity stood and stepped on me, I saw people without faces, of course, not with a normal body shape, but fraktalt depicted were, and consisting of many colors. They cried, they screamed, they laughed, but all in a very "evil" way. Not bad that they wanted me to die, but evil in the sense that they liked that I was lying there in a "fetal position" and was spat on.
While all this was going on, I tore my hair.
I tore myself not really in your hair, I was perhaps barely touched any of my hair, but it felt like.

Everything described so far is with the eyes closed, think at least that.
When I opened my eyes fell a part of my eyes into my body. I was not allowed and open your eyes yet, and even if I wanted to prove that I looked exactly the same, only even more blurred. Maybe there were some differences, but with eyes closed for a much greater influence to actually be in another universe, but with eyes open, I felt a sense I split between reality and this reality.

A & B drive and made a lot of noise at a point now, I do not know if it could be because I might be extended into the Trip and most likely only had more time at the moment, I heard the least sound from them. It was not like they were talking, but every movement irritated me really just. I tried for 10 seconds and get to say something but it did not ...

I was pulled back again and this time it was just dark. It was so dark that I did not exist there anymore. I died again, perhaps for 1000 started on this trip. I forgot to mention it above: Every time I was stepped on by these entities or machine elves I experienced a new ego death ... I was stepped on in a hurry you can imagine, faster than anything, a thousand million times, and not until I was back to the real world, I realized that I was really again, I survived.

After the recent death, I opened my eyes. A part of my consciousness was back. It felt during the trip as if something held back part of it, so that it could be possible for me to run away. I tried a few times, but certainly to no avail. You have no choice when facing something that is way bigger than you, and who can say destroy, fuck or do like it, it .. will be with you.

The reality is still not the same, everything was in flux in space. Things had a different depth to it, and if I could explain it in any way, then I would use the word overlay, the overlay, the overlay, where you can see a little of each layer is. All the same color, to so transform itself as it wants.

I closed my eyes and enjoyed the last 2-3 minutes of the round. Glad to be back.

It is most likely a part that is forgotten, too far away, and some things that are completely inexplicable, thus impossible to describe as I have not been written down. I have included what I can remember and I'm a day to remember anything more that I feel is important I'll try and explain this.

Thoughts before tripping: I thought I would be invincible, that I can handle a lot, that the dmt when longer than that, it was fitting,

Thoughts on trips, I'll NOK to take a little break from this drug for a while. Luckily, I have access to it anytime, so see no reason to be hurried.
I'll NOK to plan setting far more next time and maybe I do not try such a large dose of a very very long time when it was actually too much of the insane to me.
Everyone has their limits, and today I think I hit the middle of the target when it comes to that. I understand that I should not underestimate this material in any way, although I Actually had mega respect for this drug before I took it today, Apparently not NOK - when I have more respect for it now.


Thoughts during trips: Can not give up, feelings of hatred for what I have done a negatively to others, feelings of joy when in fact I feel I learn something from what I know, that change might be the time, I'm not ready, I is clear, it burns, it hurts not very clear for people who have experienced similar pain (The pain was neither mentally or physically) it was something in between.

Afterword: Never, under shoals DMT and never sell dmt for then the elves and take you
 

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VisualAnemia
#2 Posted : 1/29/2012 6:34:06 PM

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Hi Saint123!

You present an interesting read, regardless of the language-barrier I at least managed to decrypt most of it Very happy I'm quite slow however...

1. Anyhow, what kind of vaporizing-device did you use?
2. Why did you choose to smoke 120mg?
3. Did you successfully administer the whole dose?

I find it amazing that you were aware of opening your eyes while coming down and that you had the ability to close them in order to "prolong" the prior experience somewhat!

Also why did you think that you would be invincible? -
Saint123 wrote:
Thoughts before tripping: I thought I would be invincible


What's been your dosage range in your earlier use of the spice?

Safe travels Smile
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Saint123
#3 Posted : 1/29/2012 7:51:09 PM
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1) I used a lightbulb vaporizer i made myself. Smile
2) well after been reading the tikhal and the entry with 100mg it seemed like something i would wanna go to. As a matter of fact it was to strong, to intense and i guess i wont go that high anymore, atleast not for a very long time. Also, it seemed more like a bad experience there and then, but now it seems more positive then negative, which i thought after coming back from the trip to outerspace. Anyhow, i think i would be able to dose that high again later in life, but not for a short time.

3) I succesfully administered the whole dose, it took 2 tokes... but then i was gone... long gone.

Well, what i meant is that ive pretty much been doing all sorts of drugs you probably could mention, from a to å (a to z) and all of them in a pretty high dosages without being "fucked". in that matter that theres no addictive side to me doing drugs, also im not depressed or things like that, what im trying to tell is that i underestimated how far dmt could take me, also what i could learn from it. 120mg of dmt is probably the most intense drug experience i have ever had, also the most real, if i dont compare it with a datura trip i had some years ago (Still, i wouldnt say datura is actually a experience to "Brag" about).

Ive done all dosages from 5 to 120 mg of nn-dmt. I have a forever supply when it gets to dmt, so yeah... i could be doing all sorts of dosages i want, without thinking about it.

Thanks. You too Pleased safe travels. And thanks for commenting my tripp report.

 
VisualAnemia
#4 Posted : 1/29/2012 8:32:19 PM

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Alright, thanks for the answers to my questions Smile

However, I'd strongly advice you to use the Machine, the light bulb is just not good in any way really. I've tried it myself and it's just not effective enough to continue using, plus it's very harsh in comparison to a well made Machine! Very happy

So you compared yourself with A.Shulgin regarding the dosages? That's quite a ballsy move considering his years of experience with substances in general Pleased

Are you surprised that DMT is your so far strongest "drug experience"? Having in mind it's one of the strongest psychedelic drugs we know of Smile

I've actually experimented with some of the Solanaceae plants myself, mostly belladonna though since my datura plants were far to beautiful to mutilate in any way Pleased Divine smell too..

These toxins were however too poisonous for me to continue to experiment with, the potency varied to much and the side effects were ridiculously bad. I could never phantom to "increase" my dosage so I quit before experiencing any delirium because of the good chances of death.

Most people think that the DMT's 40-50mg range is enough to display its "full display" of effects, although I've begin to doubt this ever since my last 80mg dose I'd say it's commonly a good experience for the majority of people experimenting with DMT. Mostly because of my own experience of this doses were every single experience was unique, like a completely new substance everytime except for the so-charistmatic DMT buzz Very happy
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Saint123
#5 Posted : 1/29/2012 10:08:22 PM
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Thanks for your reply, I will take your advice into consideration.
But seriously i think it might be as good as the machine, thou i havent tried the machine yet.
I guess it depends on how you use it, also how much you can actually take into your lungs. I guess its harder with the lightbulb, but still i think it goes.
Also, a have a problem with making the machine, I can't really find a way to make a hole in the bottom of the bottle ... i dont have this electric screwdriver and im not gonna use any money on it when i know the lightbulb is effective enough... or do you really think its worth it.

Well, i didnt compare my dosage level with A.shulgin before i actually knew what i was putting myself into. I mean, ive done dosages from 5 to 120 right, so... difference between last high dose (90mg) which was perfect, woulnt be that different then to 120mg. but it ofcouse was - im still glad i did the high dosage, without it.. i think i would have had less respect for the dmt, but now... i kinda know i SHOULD...

And yeah, i didnt come to my surprise it was far the most intense drug experience, but then again ive been experimenting with 5-meo-dmt aswell, and that drug at high doses is really speechless again... thou in a different matter.

And i agree with you, for most people i think also the dosages from 40-60mg is enough to display the effect of it.. but again.. there's always something new to it, and why not experience it the most full. Smile
 
VisualAnemia
#6 Posted : 1/29/2012 11:30:58 PM

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Hm, I just smashed out the bottom of a vinegar bottle Razz Made sure the edges wasn't to sharp and rinsed it thouroughly with a strong solvent, in my case pure acetone, works wonders Smile

The main problem with a lightbulb is the lack of isolation and risk of burning the product, the DMT will "run" away from the heat and crystallize on the sides of the bulb making it really difficult to administer the premeasured dosage.

I also found that there's some safety issues with the bulb getting hot enough to explode on touch, you don't want that when you're getting torn into space having no clue of the steaming piece of glass in your hand Very happy

Saint123 wrote:
And i agree with you, for most people i think also the dosages from 40-60mg is enough to display the effect of it.. but again.. there's always something new to it, and why not experience it the most full

This does ofc largely depend on the persons intention of using the molecule, people are usually all hippie and raving about: Be happy, happy thoughts, happy farts, happy whatever really. Now doesn't that depend on WHAT you want to use the medicine for?

Most of the time I use DMT as a medicine and tool for my spiritual self. Sure, sometimes you do "forget" about the potential of DMT and then you get to experience it first hand with a slap in the face Very happy
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