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Parshvik Chintan
#1 Posted : 1/5/2012 4:47:50 AM

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but theoretically could one brew say 100g of mhrb or enough for an extraction (most likely with more than the average boils).
filter and reduce that down and evaporate that?
i imagine the yields would be low, and there would be more plant material; but is there any reason this wouldn't work to some degree?
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#2 Posted : 1/5/2012 4:54:25 AM

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It would be fine for Ayahuasca, that's my preferred aya method actually, but vaporizing it would be very difficult.
For vaporization you need freebase.
 
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#3 Posted : 1/5/2012 5:10:21 AM

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Noman wrote:
It would be fine for Ayahuasca, that's my preferred aya method actually, but vaporizing it would be very difficult.
For vaporization you need freebase.

would it work by other means of administration? (say a nebulizer?)
and what would be necessary to convert it to fb? i cant even find info on what state it is in when brewed (no acid)
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#4 Posted : 1/5/2012 5:37:46 AM

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It's all in the FAQ.
It's in salt form during the acid boil, if you don't use acid it's still in salt form because the plant is naturally acidic and stores the alkaloid as a salt.
Not using an acid in your boil will only result in the alkaloid being left in the plant matter.
Salts don't vaporize well.
Freebase does.
The conversion to freebase is what happens during the basification step.
The extraction of freebase is what happens during the NP pulls.
The method of vaporization doesn't change any of that.
The only other means of administration that would work for what you're talking about is sticking it up your ass.
Read.
It's all in there.
 
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#5 Posted : 1/5/2012 6:42:11 PM

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Noman wrote:
The only other means of administration that would work for what you're talking about is sticking it up your ass.

interesting.. i was actually considering rectal administration.

but yea, i saw in a changa thread that people were using water rather than IPA or acetone to evap dmt onto their changa.. just got me thinking...

so could one theoretically basify a brew (say with CaHO) and then evap that?
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#6 Posted : 1/5/2012 7:21:05 PM

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I think you should adjust your title.
 
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#7 Posted : 1/5/2012 8:00:24 PM

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I think you should adjust your title


Why should he?


Vibrational awareness.....er, you're refering to the analwasca concept and making a funny, no?


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#8 Posted : 1/5/2012 8:06:05 PM

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Bedazzle wrote:
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I think you should adjust your title


Why should he?


Vibrational awareness.....er, you're refering to the analwasca concept and making a funny, no?



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#9 Posted : 1/5/2012 8:14:15 PM

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It will definitely work. But you might want to do egg or gel tek on it. Or you can use activated carbon (which is IME much harder to make it work). If you do one of these teks, you will end up with CLEAR liquid (almost like water). I believe that if you reduce it to few ml, than basify with Ca(OH)2, let it dry completely and than pull with acetone/IPA, you will end up with pretty clean freebase.
 
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#10 Posted : 1/5/2012 8:21:14 PM

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Alright toppy, I'm confused and apparent my surmise was mistaken. Can you please explain what title should be adjusted and why?
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Bedazzle wrote:
Alright toppy, I'm confused and apparent my surmise was mistaken. Can you please explain what title should be adjusted and why?

haha o rite i see, no sorry i did not mean hes personal title, i meant the title of the thread.
 
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#12 Posted : 1/5/2012 8:42:23 PM

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Smile Thanks.





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#13 Posted : 1/5/2012 11:39:34 PM

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Tona wrote:
It will definitely work. But you might want to do egg or gel tek on it. Or you can use activated carbon (which is IME much harder to make it work). If you do one of these teks, you will end up with CLEAR liquid (almost like water). I believe that if you reduce it to few ml, than basify with Ca(OH)2, let it dry completely and than pull with acetone/IPA, you will end up with pretty clean freebase.

why would fining help?
also is a final pull with ipa/acetone even necessary?

Bedazzle wrote:
Vibrational awareness.....er, you're refering to the analwasca concept and making a funny, no?

i don't get the correlation....
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#14 Posted : 1/6/2012 2:03:40 PM

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Parshvik Chintan wrote:
Tona wrote:
It will definitely work. But you might want to do egg or gel tek on it. Or you can use activated carbon (which is IME much harder to make it work). If you do one of these teks, you will end up with CLEAR liquid (almost like water). I believe that if you reduce it to few ml, than basify with Ca(OH)2, let it dry completely and than pull with acetone/IPA, you will end up with pretty clean freebase.

why would fining help?
also is a final pull with ipa/acetone even necessary?


Well if you only filter it, most tannins will still be in your final product. And yes the last pull is necessary if you want separate DMT from base.
 
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#15 Posted : 1/6/2012 2:47:39 PM

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Bedazzle wrote:
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I think you should adjust your title


Why should he?

Because it's offensive and unnecessary...to say the least. It's now been edited.
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#16 Posted : 1/6/2012 9:18:22 PM

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Tona wrote:
Well if you only filter it, most tannins will still be in your final product. And yes the last pull is necessary if you want separate DMT from base.

bueno!
final question:
how drastically would the yield be diminished (approximately)
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