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Gowpen
#1 Posted : 1/1/2012 8:21:53 AM

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Hi all, I have just done some 'test' extractions on an unlikely candidate Acacia podalyriifolia, leaves and dried seed pods (2 extractions)... I have used 98% sodium hydroxide (1 lt distilled water with 75g Sodium Hydroxide for each 50gm plant material). I have some very clear 'shellite' and am letting it evap. My question is ,should I just let it sit and evap or should I do a freeze ? I know there is not much if any DMT in Podalyrilfolia but I would be happy with just a few mg's, this is really a test proceedure to get the technique right (safety and cleanliness), for a time when I can source better material.
Thanks in advance for any pointers. I have read extensively from the Nexus and have, i think, got it happening ! just short of the real deal MHRB.
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#2 Posted : 1/1/2012 8:30:45 AM

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sorry ... that was using 75 ml shellite in each
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#3 Posted : 1/2/2012 9:11:11 AM

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Holy moly I got something happening . I did a freeze and wow, something looking like crystals at the bottem of my pyrex jug. Im too scared to look ..I have a coffee filter ready, I need to know now 'how to clean my spice' oh im So exited ! Thank you so much you guys....... If I knew anyone who was into DMT I would be slapping 5's I know -I know, dont count your chickens but hey,,,,,, I will put some photos up...hang on. The dark patches at the bottem are show through from the concrete slab its on.... had to be quick. But its white as......snow
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#4 Posted : 1/2/2012 11:33:12 AM

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Congrats! Check the smell, bioassay with low doses, and let us know!

After retrieving the crystals you could evap it down further to a small fraction of current volume and freeze again, see if you can harvest more...

If you plan on making it a more frequent practice to extract/bioassay different plant alkaloids, I suggest looking into TLC for a home-made analysis method.
 
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#5 Posted : 1/3/2012 1:59:25 AM

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Congrats! Check the smell, bioassay with low doses, and let us know!

After retrieving the crystals you could evap it down further to a small fraction of current volume and freeze again, see if you can harvest more...

If you plan on making it a more frequent practice to extract/bioassay different plant alkaloids, I suggest looking into TLC for a home-made analysis method.


Mant thanks, unfortunately I must have allowed a small amount of water vapour from the freezer to get in..... I think my white crystals were just water, as they melted and evaped as soon as i removed them.

Second extraction (Leaves/phyllodes) is now 100ml or so 'yellow' liquid shellite. I will let evap then freeze... Fingers crossed
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