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bxnjx
#1 Posted : 12/1/2011 3:59:26 AM

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Greetings Nexians,

This just happened to me last night and while I've been experimenting somewhat with the spice and changa for a couple of months, this was my first attempt to go deep or breakthrough. Thanks for reading !

I was smoking with two other friends, we'd forted up the livingroom and were all sitting on a duvet comfortably, a few hours previous we had began drinking herbal tea infusions (containing peppermind, rosehip, strawberry leaves, juniper berries, sage leaves, golden rod, birch leaves, lavender, scullcap, passionflower, hawthorn, alfalfa, red clover, chamomile, dandelion) combined combined with an A. Vogel passionflower extract (I'd consumed about 50 drops throughout the day. I must admit that I was feeling pretty mezzed out and a little bit giddy from the infusion, but felt really positive going in.

We'd all agreed that we were going to attempt to go a lot deeper then we had before; up to this point we had been sheepishly tip-toeing around doses approaching break-through amounts, alto until this point we had been using a pretty ghetto apparatus made from a steel pipe and a empty tonic bottle.

We had been passing around a glass water bong loaded with some red/yellow spice mixed in the bowl with some peppermint tea-leaves each taking turns. After a couple of warm up doses, I loaded one up for my friend Sarah who was sitting to my right, she took off two hits and passed it to me, I dutifully loaded it by eye, an amount I judged to be about 20-25mg. I sat cross legged and licked the flame off the top layer of leaves and the whole bowl lit up, I pulled softly for about twenty seconds before releasing the rush taking the whole chamber of bright white smoke.

All of a sudden I felt I was in the axis of 4 squares, each had a different blend of chrome colours in a gradient. They immediately began to switch places moving across me in the centre accelerating rapidly, each time feeling like it was lacerating me, at a point the speed they were switching became unbearable and I started screaming in my mind for it to stop, my words sounding like they were in fast-forward, it then all exploded into a huge gold and green patterned vista which my vision pulled away from and I saw it was a cube which began building tension and vibrating. The tension built so much that the cube then exploded, I felt my being blow apart in every direction...

The next thing I experienced was this all-encompassing black and gold design radiating out from a centre point, I couldn't remember how I'd gotten there but I felt my entire being being torn to shreds and scattered around every extremity of this one image. Occasionally the pattern would shift slightly, the lines splitting into more and getting more complex.
As I felt each of my constituent parts fragment even smaller, I honestly thought to myself that this was how I was meeting my end, blown to million dissolving pieces scattering in every direction. Sarah told me afterwards that I had sat bolt upright with my hands in a prayer position, my head slowly slumping into my hands, muttering (which at the time I had considered what might be my last words) "Oops" and "That was stupid". After uttering "Oops" the word too fragmented and echoed throughout the scape of the pattern I was experiencing. The pain and panic I felt at this moment, I still cannot find the words for, though it reminds me very much of the first (and last) time I embarked on a salvia trip.

My memories started to form about how I had come to this point and I wished that I could move and hug my friend who was sitting beside me, after a few moments of focussing on this the outline of her face started to appear out of the pattern which has also began changing from black and gold to white, pink and gold. At this point I had stopped panicking and realised it was coming to an end.
Thank the gods I though, I don't think I've ever been so happy to be alive, I was so certain that this was the end.
As my vision came back the room looked like it was covered in snow, the only difference from the brilliant white was the pupils of my friends eyes which were the size of saucers, a pink dust started to fall from the ceiling and everything began to return to it's normal colour.

The scene began to look there was a pink and orange sparkling sand falling away from all the objects in the room, irregardless of the direction of gravity, every moving object in the room leaving 3 foot trails which in turn created more phosphorescent luminous pink sand.
I sat in total awe and a significant amount of worry that this was going to last for a long time for the next 20 minutes as the experience gradually coasted to a halt.

At the moment, I'm confused as to what it was I experienced, is this something many of you have had before, is this a part of breaking through or did I accidentally take a line dose. In retrospect I think probably my biggest mistake was not making sure I had cleared the last hit from the bong before loading it up again, I'm definitely also going to invest in a milligram scale.

Anyway, thanks for reading everyone... I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Peace xx

P.S I'm doing it again right now weeeeeeee
 

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CosmikDebris
#2 Posted : 12/1/2011 5:00:02 AM

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that sounds really frightening...

Would you do it again?
 
bxnjx
#3 Posted : 12/1/2011 5:10:56 AM

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no, never. Razz
 
bxnjx
#4 Posted : 12/1/2011 5:42:12 AM

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and to answer your question, it's not an experience I'd really ever be in a rush to repeat, though if it does I feel I'll be better able to handle it. My main concern at the time was that I had killed myself, lol.
 
NoBody
#5 Posted : 12/1/2011 11:52:09 AM
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Just FYI, a milligram scale is not really needed. Centigram scales are readily available and measure accurately for this purpose. I am becoming convinced this substance allows interaction with and as consciousness of differing dimensions from our own. It truly does peak my curiosity - if only real science could be performed here...some kind of measurable elements, you know? Perhaps the optimistic physicist in me. Thanks for the report.
 
oden
#6 Posted : 12/1/2011 8:24:58 PM

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welcome to the spice...imo you may have gotten ego death. not sure. when i got mine i knew i died. it tore me apart then shot me back to remind me of life i had, than took me again..split me to the smallest of what i really was..... when it did let me go.....every thing i drank,heard,are tasted,or saw or smelt for the longest time was sooo much more .. i finely saw the perfection i could not see before...... i am humbled...it is a teacher... tread lightly and good luck.... how was your next day after? i wonder...peace Oden
 
Felnik
#7 Posted : 12/2/2011 2:18:24 AM

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I,ve had something similar happen a few years back .
I was splintered into a million fractal fragments . It was one of
The scariest things I,ve experienced ever. A few other people in nexus
Have had this happen . It's a dosage thing for sure .
I,ve been careful ever since .
The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
Arthur C. Clarke


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actualfactual
#8 Posted : 12/2/2011 2:40:24 AM

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A very similar thing happened to me (but it was closer to 60mg). My guess is that there was some spice left in the bong from the people who hit it before you and you got your hit on top of all the unvaporized DMT. I didn't try DMT again for over 6 months after that. The utter terror was by far the most intense thing I have ever experienced.

Like Felnik said, this reaction is completely related to the dose. I weigh every dose I take now and I rarely smoke freebase at all. The harmalas in changa change everything Pleased

 
 
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