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ancientpledge
#1 Posted : 11/18/2011 8:02:18 PM

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Hey Nexus,

Well I went and got myself into a little bit of trouble. I decided that I would solo trip and do some DMT. Man, what a crazy idea that was.. allow me to explain.

Here I am at home on my day off with not much to do. Well, why not do a little DMT to 'spice' things up a little bit? My lack of understanding of this powerful substance really knocked me on my ass! I took what I thought was a smaller hit, but of course when you vaporize DMT properly there's hardly any taste. All of a sudden it got really intense, really fast. This surprised me. Of course this isn't my first time smoking DMT or doing psychedelics, but one of my first couple of times. I was pretty much stuck in that pre-lift off stage tripping hardcore for a good 5 minutes. It got to a point where I really started to worry about my mental state - it felt like it was being ripped away.

Funny enough, I haven't been able to identify ego death very well even though it has happened to me once. I was pretty close to it here, perhaps on the edge, but just before it. While this was going on I felt a very strong presence - it felt like an elder, a teacher. I knew it was the DMT. I thought that it wasn't possible to meet the DMT/Ayahuasca teacher by smoking DMT, but this presence was very strong and felt very old. The feeling was similar to that of LSD, Mushrooms and the like, but this teacher felt like the teacher of THOSE teachers. DMT really is the holy grail of psychedelics!

What has really surprised me was just how introspective smoked DMT actually can be. Maybe not when you lift off, but in pre-lift off stage it really isn't a whole lot different than a mushroom/acid trip, just with its own flavour. The DMT actually helped me big time, I was really scared because of how strong it was but the DMT reassured my mind and kept me calm. I couldn't believe the substance I was getting scared of, was helping me! These drugs truly are amazing in how they work with the mind. Afterwards it gave me a lot of lessons to really ponder over, including my own life and what I am doing with it. And especially my workings with psychedelics. I feel wiser now.. next time I will be sure to give DMT the respect it deserves to get the most benefit from it.

The bottom line here for me is to respect DMT for what it is - either smoked or oral. I had always thought smoked DMT was not very introspective, that it was more an adventure than anything, but boy am I wrong. It is both. I know now that DMT is that special light that is there when there is no other light. Just like when you are going through a tough addiction, DMT can be that light at the end of the tunnel for you. At the moment where I felt like I was about to be ripped apart and everything was going to be lost, DMT turned a light on for me and guided me there. It's like it understood my emotions and acted accordingly inside my mind - almost as though this substance has its own consciousness.

What an amazing medicine. I am happy to be part of a community that respects it so much. My hats off to everyone here.

Let's keep exploring this amazing medicine and use it with healthy intentions. Smile
 

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joedirt
#2 Posted : 11/18/2011 10:45:18 PM

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No doubt vaporized spice can be a good teacher. My only real gripe is the very short duration. I much prefer a longer session with shrooms or aya...but in a pinch CHANGA!!!!! Changa is pretty much the holy grail of smoking spice IMHO.

hum.. One other thought. Remember it's not so much the dose as the state of mind. You can get there on a solid 20-30 mgs vaporized correctly. I don't ever take 30mgs any more! Once you learn to shift into that 'psychedelic frame of mind' you won't require as large of a dose.

Peace.
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rjb
#3 Posted : 11/19/2011 9:31:05 AM

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Hello and welcome to the Nexus!

ancientpledge wrote:
What has really surprised me was just how introspective smoked DMT actually can be. Maybe not when you lift off, but in pre-lift off stage it really isn't a whole lot different than a mushroom/acid trip, just with its own flavour. The DMT actually helped me big time, I was really scared because of how strong it was but the DMT reassured my mind and kept me calm. I couldn't believe the substance I was getting scared of, was helping me! These drugs truly are amazing in how they work with the mind. Afterwards it gave me a lot of lessons to really ponder over, including my own life and what I am doing with it. And especially my workings with psychedelics. I feel wiser now.. next time I will be sure to give DMT the respect it deserves to get the most benefit from it.


This resonates with me deeply. I also experienced the same "tornado gentility" during my first trips, as I like to call it Smile For me, DMT was the only psychedelic which manifested both scary and serene at the same time. But it wasn't a confusing type of learning, as it was for me on mushrooms some times. It's unbelievable how this works, but through these things, I've learned that I have big issues letting go. I knew I needed to somehow change myself for the better even before psychs, but I didn't know how to act on it.

I can truly say that DMT is the ally that put order into my life, speaking spiritually; I didn't feel like my current job was all there was to life. It also pushed me towards meditation, which in turn made me a more balanced (I like to think), less judgemental person, toned down my aggressive approach towards certain habits or practices (social/religious/what ever), helped me look at various situations in totally different ways. In my own humble opinion. Just an observation, nothing more. I have stopped hanging on to things, it's easier that way.

I agree that the DMT must be respected, it's a truly great teacher.

joedirt wrote:
Remember it's not so much the dose as the state of mind.


I totally agree, even though this can be a little out there for a first timer. It took me a little while until I got to that right state of mind, but now it seems just so easy. All I had to do was let go all the way, I just didn't know how to. I was hooked on to expectations, that the great trips I looked forward to seemed so very far from what I was experiencing (only in certain trips, which led me to believe that I was missing something).

The Psychedelic Experience helped me a great deal in learning how to do those things, so I recommend it with all my heart. The Tibetan Book of the Dead seemed a little hard to grasp at first for me, but I'm going to resume it soon after reading this, as so many things make sense now.

Peace and love,
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oden
#4 Posted : 11/20/2011 9:03:53 PM

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Yea dmt is an amazing molecule..and ego death is just another part of it..i understand what you are saying.. on my ego death i thought i was truly dead. but the leasson kept going for quite awhale after i heard my last heartbeat...But i must add after it was done and i was back. it did change me for the better.it helped me understand sooo very much about who i was and who i should be. how to understand more in others and my world.. imho...it is holy..and deserves the utmost respect.. i wish you well in your search and your understanding of something so very special..it is a teacher and the places it will take you and the things it will show you is vast..good luck and much love
 
ancientpledge
#5 Posted : 11/21/2011 4:28:06 AM

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Thank you for your kind replies. Smile

I have learned so much in the last couple of days about DMT, and the more I learn the more surprised I am. For example changa.. thank you for mentioning that, joedirt. Smile I am going to explore that because I think it will be my method of choice. I am also going to look into a GVG for vaping spice, but I also have an old vaporizer I am no longer using that I could employ as well (an Arizer Digital Vaporizer if anyone knows how to use that for DMT?).

rjb, that's what I have come to learn too about letting go. For me ego death is going to be a big move forward in my life; I haven't achieved that loss yet and I know that the day it happens something amazing is going to take place. It's kind of ironic because there were two LSD experiences I freaked out on, not realizing that I was fighting ego death. These two experiences caused me to stay away from psychedelics for over a year and a half. Now that I have had time to integrate the experiences, I am ready to have my ego death (which I believe is really going to be my baptism to psychedelics).

I also like what you had to say about meditation. Even though I have not been a very spiritual person overall, I think I am going to employ this practice a lot more often in my life. After this DMT experience and all that I have read on psychedelics in general, I feel this is going to be a key component to my spiritual journey moving forward. I also need to balance myself and my emotions, and I know meditation is the way to go.

Basically throughout all of this I am so thankful to have these experiences. I was so afraid of DMT before, but through these short bursts and meetings of DMT I am really starting to see an entirely new light on this medicine. I thought DMT smoked was not the proper way to respect DMT, but it is a way to respect this great substance. I am really happy to have found that because now I am ready to explore more.

Being a student of this incredible teacher is really a blessing. Thanks to you all for your help in aiding my journey thus far. Much love to everyone. Smile
 
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#6 Posted : 11/21/2011 10:39:46 AM

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Yes. Changa + Meditation = peas & carrots Very happy I feel blessed to be able to work on myself in such a way, breakthrough often comes after 20-30 mg (equivalent, I only really smoalk Changa, so 40-60mg Changa)...

And yes, GVG is the most efficient, and best tasting way of ingesting this medicine, although it does take a bit of practise to get right. My GF was trying to blast off the other night, and failed. I thought she had smoked most of what was in the bowl, so thought I would finnish it off, not expecting dramatic effects. Turns out she had barely vaped anything and I got a monster lungfull and instantly knew I was going to go pretty far. I was getting sucked into this intense and extremely entertaining trip, when my GF bursts in from the kitchen, not knowing I was tripping my ass off and starts jabbering about house work (or something)... That freaked me out andd grounded me pretty hard. Shame, it was turning out to be an awesome experience!

Also another tip - do it in a dark, quiet room, I use candle light, but a dim lamp would do just fine as well, I think it is a good idea to have a ritual before stepping into such divine realms, for me it goes:

1. Weigh dose(s - I often do 2-3 in a session) get pipe out and load
2. lights out, blinds down if during the day.
3. candle lit.
4. meditate, clear your mind, stop that Goddamn mental chatter! Only pick up the pipe once you are as calm as can be, if my heart starts racing when I pick up the pipe, I am not quite ready, put the pipe down, meditate some more. I only start to smoke when I am absolutely calm and clear. Once the ego has been silenced / calmed, it will be a much easier transition to ego death / loss tan if your ego is still raging away.
5. Launch
6. Come back laughing/crying/smiling/frowning/yawning (all at the same time) and chuckling at the absurdity/ profundity of what has just occurred between my ears. Load up next boawl Pleased

But yes, love and respect are required in spades with this molecule. You will figure out the best way to approach it in time and it will keep getting better and better! Very happy
Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole.
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#7 Posted : 11/21/2011 12:45:24 PM
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No doubt vaporized spice can be a good teacher. My only real gripe is the very short duration.


Sublingual harmalas make it somewhat slower and longer

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hum.. One other thought. Remember it's not so much the dose as the state of mind. You can get there on a solid 20-30 mgs vaporized correctly. I don't ever take 30mgs any more! Once you learn to shift into that 'psychedelic frame of mind' you won't require as large of a dose.




23-30mg in one hit with the GVG held long enough in the lungs is usually in general a breakthrough dose
 
 
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