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ckld
#1 Posted : 11/12/2011 1:58:18 PM

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Many hi-es (and highs) to all nexians. It's hironic that i can find and buy so easully DMT containing plants but not the chemicals to extract the DMT from this plant (mimosa hostilis). I found in this forum so many extraction methods but I'm having trouble finding all the "tools" I need for extraction. Is it posible to find and buy these chemicals to extract DMT on the net? Wich method of extraction is connected to these chemicals? I'm also searching for a reliable scale. Has anybody got a model to suggest? Finally how much of Mimosa hostilis will i need to extract 100mg of DMT? Sorry if too many questions i only want to get started soon. Thanks a lot for any reply.
It's amazing just to find out, so true and so clear that there is no good or bad, only love and fear and that is all we are messing with during our whole human history and WOW that was my first hit. A moment of freedom out of the ape's sealed skin.
 

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#2 Posted : 11/12/2011 2:47:50 PM

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Hi Ckld, it would be helpful if we knew which country you live in as the 'ingredients' for extraction can come from many sources. Also which tek are you going to use?
Lye is sold as drain cleaner, available from most supermarkets. Naphtha is sold as lighter fluid and camp fuel.
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ckld
#3 Posted : 11/12/2011 3:14:49 PM

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Hi cjames. I'm from Greece. I can't find lye as a single ingridient but added in powders for clouth cleaning. I've even found recipes how to make lye out of ash! Excuse me if I don't understand some things. My english is not that good. I've also read on this forum and I think on erowid's that Naptha for lighters won't do the job. (I'm not even sure. Is the Zippo lighter fluid Naphtha?). I'me still waiting for any suggestions for my first extraction method tek which will depend on how easy I will able to find the chemicals to make the extraction and being efficient in a way of DMT production per Mimosa plant needed.
It's amazing just to find out, so true and so clear that there is no good or bad, only love and fear and that is all we are messing with during our whole human history and WOW that was my first hit. A moment of freedom out of the ape's sealed skin.
 
ckld
#4 Posted : 11/12/2011 5:09:10 PM

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Ok I found some Sodium Hydroxide NAOH 10 lbs Food Grade Lye on ebay. Is that it and enough to get started with? Is it the only ingridient (among chemicals) I'm gonna need? Whach recipe should I follow whith this?
It's amazing just to find out, so true and so clear that there is no good or bad, only love and fear and that is all we are messing with during our whole human history and WOW that was my first hit. A moment of freedom out of the ape's sealed skin.
 
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#5 Posted : 11/12/2011 6:01:14 PM

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I would say having 5KG of NaOH is a bit overkill personally, but if you had that much at least you will be able to unblock your drains for the next decade! I never have more than 500g sitting about.

In my country all the lighter fuels are naphtha. I have heard mixed reports with the one you mention but have not tried it myself. If you do go for lighter fuel evaporate some of it in a glass bowl or similar in case it has residue (not good). It is good to check MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for products as they will mention if there are any unwanted additives, however contents of many solvents varies from country to country.

Another option for base that may be open to you is lime (CaOH) but you will need to look at lime teks (find them around the forum and on the wiki).
D × V × F > R
 
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#6 Posted : 11/12/2011 6:10:25 PM

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This is cheap and works goof for me!

http://www.amazon.com/Am...id=1321121383&sr=8-1

Good luck. Peace and Happy Journeys Smile
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ckld
#7 Posted : 11/12/2011 6:42:11 PM

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Lime method seems good. I've already bought too much lime for my Yopo. Still got to find d-Limonene which i have no idea where to find. Found some d-Limonene pills would that do? I'm still searching till any reply.
entheogenadvocate this is a FANTASTIC scale but it can't be shiped to Greece so I'm gonna try to find some other vendors for this model.
Thank you all. I'm feeling I'm getting a tiny bit clouser.(Better than stability anyway. Ι do am a great optimist. I have to so i survive in the country (mess) i live in. By the way sorry for giving trouble to the hole world these days but it wasn't actualy me. But that's politics better not for this forum)
It's amazing just to find out, so true and so clear that there is no good or bad, only love and fear and that is all we are messing with during our whole human history and WOW that was my first hit. A moment of freedom out of the ape's sealed skin.
 
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#8 Posted : 11/12/2011 7:13:17 PM

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Limonene pills won’t really be much use, you will probably want to get at least 500ml or a litre.
D × V × F > R
 
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#9 Posted : 11/12/2011 7:21:25 PM

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I found only glass bottles of Limonene (500ml) and I don't know if it will make it during shipping. I'm still looking though. At least it's easier to find than xylene. Xylene goes in such big quantity (at lest a gallon) and usually not shipped out of any country.
It's amazing just to find out, so true and so clear that there is no good or bad, only love and fear and that is all we are messing with during our whole human history and WOW that was my first hit. A moment of freedom out of the ape's sealed skin.
 
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#10 Posted : 11/12/2011 7:41:37 PM

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To be honest I would actually stick to naphtha for a first extraction as there is far more information around on it, can be found in lighter fuel and some camping fuels (watch out, some of these contain rust inhibitors) and you will save yourself some steps.

This tek uses lime and naphtha (there are two versions):

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Q21Q21%27s_Vinegar/Lime_A/B_Extraction_Tek
D × V × F > R
 
ckld
#11 Posted : 11/12/2011 8:23:51 PM

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Think I'm stuck with zippo fluid. Is that too bad?
It's amazing just to find out, so true and so clear that there is no good or bad, only love and fear and that is all we are messing with during our whole human history and WOW that was my first hit. A moment of freedom out of the ape's sealed skin.
 
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#12 Posted : 11/12/2011 8:33:28 PM

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I'm pretty sure you can find lye easily in greece. I've actually seen it in hardware/paints/plumber stores priced something like 3 euros / kilo. (that was 3-4 years ago though)

Naphtha is also widely available from said stores. I think it was called nafti or nefti (or something similar!) in greek.


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#13 Posted : 11/12/2011 10:03:34 PM

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I'm real nicely surprised Infundibulum. How come... you made DMT for your summer holiday tripping in Greece or what? Very happy Very happy Very happy . NEFTI IS NAPHTHA??? Τhat is so common to find!!!Very happy Very happy Very happy. I can't believe it. Nefti is used very commonly to dilute paint, it smells quite difirent than lighter fluid though. Is that the right ingridient? If it is I'm so happy about it.
Lye is still a question. I'll continue searching tomorow morning. I will ask over the hardware/paints/plumber stores anywhere near me.
I'd like to remind that I still haven't found a reliable scale and don't know how much mimosa should I order for about 100mg of DMT. Any suggestion would be gladly accepted. Many greetings to Infundibulum.
It's amazing just to find out, so true and so clear that there is no good or bad, only love and fear and that is all we are messing with during our whole human history and WOW that was my first hit. A moment of freedom out of the ape's sealed skin.
 
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#14 Posted : 11/12/2011 10:15:01 PM

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Also thanks d*l*b. Tek 2 will finally be my first choice.
It's amazing just to find out, so true and so clear that there is no good or bad, only love and fear and that is all we are messing with during our whole human history and WOW that was my first hit. A moment of freedom out of the ape's sealed skin.
 
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#15 Posted : 11/12/2011 10:41:35 PM

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lmao @ food-grade lye
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#16 Posted : 11/12/2011 10:48:50 PM

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ckld wrote:
I'm real nicely surprised Infundibulum. How come... you made DMT for your summer holiday tripping in Greece or what?

Yup, nothing better than finishing grams of dmt while camping on a beach...

nefti is, as stated, naphtha, but it has a different hydrocarbon composition compared to lighter fluid. Nefti is heavy naphtha while lighter fluid is light naphtha. the difference means that nefti will take ages to evaporate (ages is in weeks), while lighter fluid evaporates much faster, in a day or so. This of course is not a problem if you are freeze-precipitating your solvent instead of fully evaporating.

As for dosage, 10g of mhrb will most certainty yield you 100mgs, but considering the effort involved it'll be better to start with 50-100grams or so.

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#17 Posted : 11/13/2011 4:50:36 PM

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I was reading the Q21Q21 tek2. Everything fine. Now I know I'm gonna make it. Except for the multiple pulls. End of pull one and it goes in the freezer. Supose I do a second pull with a new batch of naphtha where should I pour it? In the old precipitation container or a new one and join at the end? Should I use a new batch of naptha (1ml per 1gr of bark) for every pull? I can't underastand how can naphtha seem clear and colorless after stiring the bark-goo. If I pour through a coffee filter will the DMT be filtered or it will pass through the filter and into the precipitation container?
It's amazing just to find out, so true and so clear that there is no good or bad, only love and fear and that is all we are messing with during our whole human history and WOW that was my first hit. A moment of freedom out of the ape's sealed skin.
 
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entheogenadvocate wrote:
This is cheap and works goof for me!

http://www.amazon.com/Am...id=1321121383&sr=8-1

Good luck. Peace and Happy Journeys Smile


These are great and affordable
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#19 Posted : 11/13/2011 7:09:53 PM

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As with the scale it is the best I found but Amazon won't ship to Greece so the affordable part is questionable as I'm about to pay over 100 euro with the shipping costs to buy from here:
http://www.americanweigh...=22&products_id=580y
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ckld wrote:
As with the scale it is the best I found but Amazon won't ship to Greece so the affordable part is questionable as I'm about to pay over 100 euro with the shipping costs to buy from here:
http://www.americanweigh...=22&products_id=580y


you can get these scales from ebay. they ship from hong kong, no idea if they would deliver to greece but i don't see why not.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/it...&hash=item27bdc80518

if this link doesn't work for you just search ebay for 0.001g scales and they should be there.

EDIT: i should add that i assume these scales from ebay, although they look identical, are not as good quality as the ones on amazon since they are cheaper and from hong kong... but judging by the sellers rating they will do the job.
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