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geko
#1 Posted : 11/9/2011 5:48:03 PM

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OK guys, I have not posted here although I have been a member of the Shroomery for a very long time. I wanted to chime in on the topic of psilocybin extraction in this thread ( https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=6329 ) but found out that as a newcomer I have been restricted to the Welcome area Smile

Anyway... I think that the nice fellows in the above thread are thinking in the wrong direction. Extraction of the actives from mushrooms is done very easily with citric acid. All you need to do is put dried, powdered shrooms in tea bags and immerse in water to which has been added some citric acid powder. The stronger the citric acid solution, the better, but it should be kept at below precipitation levels. In a few hours at room temperature, with occasional stirring, you will have extracted all you need. Then you remove the tea bags, decant and filter until you are left with clear citric acid + actives solution. This is a tested and proven (numerous times) method. Now, the goal is apparently to get to dry crystals, so all we need to find out is how to get the citric acid out of the solution. I do not know the answer to that but it should be pretty simple. If we manage it, then we evaporate and should have what we want. So... how to get citric acid out of water solution?





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#2 Posted : 11/9/2011 10:01:20 PM

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What your after is the psilocin citrate, not the citric acid. Psilocybin converts to psilocin citrate (in acidic water), and the psilocin just becomes a different salt (citrate). The only way i know of that would get you citrate mushroom alkaloids would be to evaporate it. But being how fragile psilocin is, i would worry about it getting oxidized or degraded simply by letting it evap with no heat. If you do try to evaporate the water, do it in a dark place, with no heat. I don't know if you will get active psilocin citrate, but its worth a try. Perhaps using fumaric acid would result in a more stable salt that could take a little more abuse, and not oxidize to something inactive when you evaporate it.

I doubt freezing or acetone bombing the tea will do much, being that psilocin is potent (35mg dose) and would require a very small amount of water for it to precipitate out of.

Good luck though, extracting mushroom alkaloids seems like it would be fun and interesting, being that you would have to fiddle around and expirement to devise a kitchen tek that could result in psilocin xtyals.
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geko
#3 Posted : 11/9/2011 10:06:56 PM

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Thanks a lot. I see the point and I will try. I am not a chemist, regretfully... However I am curious of the following: say I have only water with citric acid crystals dissolved in it (no mushrooms or anything else). How can I extract the citric acid out of the water without evaporating the water? Is this possible somehow?
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