hello,

SWIM (is this necessary? -- let me just say everything I say here is a fictitious fantasy) has tried smoking freebase for the first (and second) time with a GVG, over the course of the last couple weeks. I found the effects very fascinating and revealing but I did not break through (which is a state I am curious to be in).

After making myself 400mg of freebase via Noman's tek a friend and I decided to try it out for the first time. The extraction was very smooth and most of the pulls were pure white (a couple pulls had a barely noticeable tint of yellow in it). We each smoked about 30mg from the GVG and sat back to take in the experience. My friend tripped a lot harder then I did, seeing everything dissolve into fractals or otherwise distort in appearance in a dramatic fashion. I felt as though I was simply on a very good, but short, acid trip. Furniture were breathing, and the painting on the wall was melting into itself like a swirling pool of liquid paint. I enjoyed it, but it was not what I expected from 30mg which I have heard was a breakthrough dose.

I thought perhaps I was trying too hard to "break through" and I simply needed a more meditative mindset and a private setting. I also made a note to myself to drink chamomile tea before smoking next time -- as the smoke was very harsh, making it difficult to take large hits.

I waited a couple days to try it again. This time I smoked 40mg from the GVG. The experience was much more intense. I saw three dimensional fractals everywhere, which were evolving in accordance with the music I was listening to, like a 3D music visualizer. The ceiling was folding into itself into a complex fractal of its own while slowly inching towards (but never reaching) me. I did not break through -- but I had an ominous feeling that something was observing me and studying me. Not in a menacing way, but as if it was evaluating my intentions and capabilities. I felt as though the drug itself was alive and interacting with me (I have never gotten this with acid). Then suddenly I felt like I was about to be yanked into a very bizarre plane of reality. Startled, I pulled back, and I felt as though the entity was saying "ok. ok. we'll go at your own pace." (I did not physically hear it - it was more of an inner monologue that was strangely external). I believe I may have gotten very close to breaking through - but again I needed a better mindset. I am considering smoking a little bit of harmalas before trying it the next time, as I have heard it makes the upward ramp of the trip slower and more comfortable (while extending the length of the trip). I would like to hear the opinions of the dmt-nexus community on this.

Also, I am under the impression from the forums that I am smoking fairly large doses. My friend who smoked with me the first time seemed to have a stronger experience then I had with the same dose. Could it be that I am one of those "hard headed" people that simply needs a slightly greater dose?

It sounds like you're going through the experience with your eyes open. If you're looking to break through, you should be shutting your eyes. It should add a whole new dimension to the experience (no pun intended ). Also dosage is one of the more mysterious and complicated issues regarding DMT. It seems completely unknown as to why some people need some size dosages and some people need others to get to the same level, other than to say I wouldn't be surprised if your "tolerances" were swapped on a different day or even different time of day.

Fascinating! I will definitely try it with my eyes closed next time.

I am guessing it is difficult to gauge the intensity of the trip you want - if your tolerance is so sensitive to the time and day. Perhaps it is a down-side to smoking that you just have to pick a dosage and see where it takes you.

Here's how I do it.

Basically I get 2 calls. One is "Smoke a low dose" I'll pack a lil bit of changa in a joint or on a bowl and rip this until I feel content.
The other call says "You need to go as deep as you possibly can" which I used to get all the time, and would bong cannabis/changa/freebase in high doses because it would without a doubt take me to the other side. Also if I want to "go for the gold" I would have already consumed LSD, with ayahuasca later, and then began my DMT smoking.

So it's up to you, you want to meditate with a hint of the essence, or do you want to really see what you are capable of, and what exists on the other side? Dose accordingly.

I would say I want to see what exists on the other side. What I have read on the matter has really aroused my curiosity. There is a whole world of experiences that I have yet to tap into.

It would be interesting to try in conjunction with LSD, or when I am coming down from an LSD trip -- but since I have moved it has been very difficult to find. Fortunately DMT is absurdly easy to extract.

It's not so much that your tolerance is sensitive to the time and day as much as it is the DMT is completely unpredictable. You quite frankly have no idea what it's going to do from any dosage ever. If you start to make characterizations of the DMT experience such as any time you catch yourself saying, "DMT is (like)...." then just be aware that DMT is fully prepared to blow your expectations to smitherines in any way.

I actually find that pretty exciting x] I guess I will just have to smoke again and see how it is different. I can't let my expectations and preconceptions cloud the experience.

The beauty is that you can expect away, but the DMT realm will have its own plans often regardless of your preconceptions.

Couldn't be more true, lose the notion (not saying you have it) that you will have any sort of control.

As for the dosage, do you need higher doses of other psychedelics than others to reach new states of mind? I have a friend who would consume 5 tabs of acid/5 grams shrooms and not feel a single thing. When I gave him the chance to try DMT however, he only needed 15mg to have a fully visual immerse experience.

Make absolutely SURE that you are holding your hits in as long as humanly possible, get all of that material in there and ~15-20 per hit should maximize the DMT's potential

safe travels~

If your friend could take that much acid and shrooms and not feel a thing, I would question the integrity of his source. Did anyone else participate with him, and if so, did they feel anything?

Pure 30mg will blow most people's minds when vaped properly(especially when taken in single inhalation)

There are several factors that effect the amount of D going into your blood, such as:
-Duration of inhalation
-Proper screen(copper mesh is ideal) that doesn't drip
-Proper vaping temp
-Duration of keeping the vapor in ones lungs
-Purity of DMT

I questioned the source before I had actually decided to figure things out and trip with him, I took 1 1/2 hits of the same acid and had a great experience, have also taken only 1 gram of the shrooms that he took around 3 grams of once, we split the bag and the shrooms were exactly the same. I tripped hard, he barely noticed anything :/ Might be something with the Ph level in the stomach killing off the psilocybin before it does it's work?