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Familiarity with Ascorbic Acid redox? Options
 
familystone
#1 Posted : 10/25/2011 10:28:08 PM
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Does anyone have it?

I have read 69ron's wiki on oxide to freebase but would like to know about substituting zinc with vitamin c.

I have seen a few mentions of it and even more questions asking about it in various thread around but never anything substantial.

If one were inclined to try it, what would be the procedure? Just follow Ron's description and replace zinc with a 1000mg vit c pill?

Also, does one have to stir constantly for 2 hours (my hotplate/stirrer just crapped out) if following Ron's?

How does one know when the reaction is complete and to add water/basify/extract with NP?

 

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#2 Posted : 10/25/2011 10:30:46 PM

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I dont think it works like that. Vitamin C can prevent oxidation but it wont reduce an oxide into it's parent amine.
 
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#3 Posted : 10/25/2011 10:46:26 PM
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There are too many comments like: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...ts&m=37346#post37346 dating back to '08 preventing me from writing this off.

I could come up with more comments by people on this site or others, but this is a good example.

It's weird, there will be one comment on it and it just gets washed over repeatedly throughout the years
 
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#4 Posted : 10/25/2011 11:06:48 PM

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I dont think that points to anything. So someone had some gunk that wouldnt dissolve in xylene and neither water? Well that wasnt n-oxide, because it should dissolve in both Very happy . God knows what that stuff was.. Then one added ascorbic acid and it dissolved, in what, in water, in xylene? Where was the gunk left, in the water? There's way too many questions there.

In any case, feel free to try. but remember to make a control test (for example redissolve half of your substance in another acid that isnt ascorbic, and extract the substance the same way, see if there are differences)

How did you get your n-oxide in the first place, and how do you know its really n-oxide?
 
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#5 Posted : 10/25/2011 11:57:12 PM
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Are you asking me to present more quotes?

I am not asking specifics about that post or thread. Notice how I said this is one of many. The point is, there are several (not a copious amount) comments regarding using ascorbic acid alone.

I am really asking people who have tried this. Your comments are noted and have been consistent in other posts similar to this.

I would like to clear this up in one place instead of having brief snippets spread throughout the web.
 
 
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