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Fractalyzed
#1 Posted : 10/14/2011 3:33:46 PM

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I'm going to be trying Ayahuasca for the first time, personally brewing it. Wanted some input from those experienced before i begin the process and delve into the divine.

I'm going to be journeying with a partner (girl i was deeply in love with, and partly still am..)
I have about 100g of black caapi vine.
I wanted to brew all 100g caapi with 6g MHRB and 4g Syrian Rue.
This is divided for 2 people.
I planned on doing about 3 or 4 one-hour sub-boils of the brew. Should i just throw all the ingredients into one pot and sub-boil it all at once?
How much vinegar should i throw in there?
Also, would you guys recommend the egg-white tannin reduction for this brew?
Would it be best to reduce the brew down to 1 cup for each of us?

I've tripped dimitri hundreds of times sub-breakthrough, and have had about 3 or 4 breakthroughs; i've tried it with syrian rue, changa, and 10x caapi changa. My partner has tripped psychedelics several times in her past and has also had experiences with dimitri, though no break through, and is also very strong willed. We're going to be in my house for the most part as there aren't many openly remote nature places. We're looking for a decently strong experience here (purging, revelations, etc,etc), and i think this brew should do the trick for the first time; might even be a bit strong? We were also planning on smoking some changa, but it might intense enough as it is. What do you guys think of the brew? Any suggestions? Maybe an additional 50mg of FB spice?



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#2 Posted : 10/14/2011 7:05:58 PM

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I think 100g will be sufficient on its own for 2 people. If you want to add rue just to be sure, I would only use 2 grams instead of 4. That will be more than enough to inhibit MAO.

You should look at the link in my signature for tips.

Caapi 3 x 3 hours
mimosa 3 x 30 mins

no vinegar needed.

egg white tannin removal optional and recommended.

 
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#3 Posted : 10/14/2011 7:42:32 PM

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Hello friend, wishing you good luck on your first go with ayahuasca, it is the mecca IMO.

What house said is right on, exept at least for me, 100 grams cappi between 2 people, (50 grams) is not enough and leads to a very very light experience. Couple that with only 6 grams mimosa (divided 2 ways) and youve got a recipe for a very light experience.

Also for me, mimosa goes better with rue, and if im using aya vine, I use chaliponga leaves. In my experience 10 grams mimosa with 100 grams aya is a very light experience compared to 10 grams mimosa with 4 grams rue, which is an extremely powerful dose, wheras 10 grams mimosa with ayahuasca is a relatively gentle experience, while still being great.

So if i were you and i really wanted to get into ayahausca, i would obtain more plant material, and a variety of it. (that is if you can spare the $$) I would get some more aya vine, some chaliponga leaves, some syrian rue, and more mimosa. This way you can find what works for you, and work your way up.

For now drinking what you have will be great, but ill bet my bottom dollar that its going to be a very subtle experience.
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#4 Posted : 10/14/2011 10:05:32 PM

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Thank you, guys. Unfortunately, that's all the caapi i have at the moment and we were planning for this weekend. I might have a bit more actually, 110g vine + 10g leaf, so about a 6-g caapi experience.
Considering you guys are saying it probably wont be very powerful, i think i'm going to keep the 4g of syrian and up the MHRB to 10g, and add 70mg of FB spice to the mix.
The syrian will be taken 30 minutes after the caapi/mimosa, and the Spice 1 hour after caapi ingestion. So individually we're talking 60g caapi/5g MHRB/2g Rue/35g FB spice. From what i've read, this should be a decent experience.
I just really dont want to let down my partner, as she's really looking forward to some form of a powerful experience.

Thanks for all the tips, and if anyone else has any info/suggestions, please feel free to post; theres never too much info!

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EDIT: Turns out i have 125g of caapi, with 118 vine and 7g of leaf. I think i'm going to keep the above ratios to enhance the experience.
 
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#5 Posted : 10/17/2011 7:33:17 PM

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While i said it would likely be a light experience, What you are talking about now just seems like too many unknown variables for a first time experience mixing in the 2 grams rue 70mg spice and cappi and mimosa. It is really your call, but if anything perhaps add the rue, but not the spice, at least to start. Perhaps you could have the spice on hand to boost it if needed. But 60 grams cappi + 2 grams rue, is enough for potent MAOI inhibition and will likely make the 5 grams mimosa alone a potent enough dose. It is not often recommended to go above 5 grams for your first time, and many people here achieve strong effects at that dose, although i personally do not get where i want off that dose.

So sorry if my information sounds contradictory, but i dont recoomend mixing all that right off the bat, for a first time experience. you may want to just do 60 grams cappi and 5 mimosa, or you can add the rue, it really depends on if your cappi is quality or not, because sometimes 50-60 grams just isnt enough.

I would drink first your cappi tea, and wait for effects, if you feel noticable psychoactive effects (i mean noticeable) then you definetly have enough MAOI and can skip the rue, but if your not feeling much, you can add the 2 grams rue, then wait 20 min. then take your 5 grams mimosa. Then if you want more "light" you can boost it with your spice.

Good luck and good vibes to you brother.
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