My African Cichlids have been reading a lot about DMT extraction and finally got all the ingredients and attempted their first batch.
It was far from perfect but they got around 340mg of DMT fumarate from 50g of MHRB.
This was then dissolved in 20 mL of warm water in preparation for conversion to freebase for smoking.
Now these are some curious fish and one of them got the idea to taste the solution.
He dabbed the tip of his fin in the DMT water and just touched the drop to the tip of his tongue.
It felt like a tiny surge of.. something.. the second it hit his tongue. Almost like a very mild electric shock.
At felt he thought it had to be a placebo effect but within 5 seconds he felt a wave come over him very similar to coming up on salvia.
Not bothering to figure out the concentration of the DMT in the water beforehand, he quickly spit all the saliva out in the sink and immediately
proceeded to sit on the couch just in case he left the solar system.
It ended up not escalating past that "strange" feeling and into a full blown trip and it only lasted about 5 minutes before feeling mostly normal.
But I am thinking that it might be worth it to try the DMT fumarate-water tincture with a predetermined dose.
My fish still cant get over how fast effects were felt from just that drop on the tongue and now they are even more excited to try a full dose vaped.

Hi gory dkalz,

Welcome to the Nexus.

To be honest, your experience as described made no sense to me. Oral DMT requires more than just a drop of water - most folks take 30-50 mgs or more. But the major issue is the oral never works without an MAOI. Did your fish nom nom an MAOI first before dipping his fin? Even then, oral DMT takes a solid 20-40 mins to come in in my limited experience.

Did the fish say the drop tasted bad? imo DMT is not yummy in the mouth.

Anyway, on to technicalities: Might you be willing to tell us a bit more about yourself, who you are, your philosophy and psychedelic experience to date?

I'm curious about which extraction tek you used. I am confident this site can help you to improve your yield.

Take a good look around there's a lot to see here. I recommend starting with the wiki which you can find in the upper right corner of the Forum.

Again, welcome to the Nexus.

This just goes to show how powerful the placebo effect can be. There’s no way you got DMT effects from what was certainly less than 1mg of DMT taken orally without an MAOI.

Whoa

Hello. Thank you for the welcome. I've been here a long time just hiding in the shadows and finally registered for an account.

First. Technically it wasn't oral use as I didnt swallow it, it just stayed on my tongue, which would allow for at least some absorption to the bloodstream. I have never used an MAOI and don't even have any in my possesion.
It was a very mild feeling. Like taking a small hit of salvia. Not even close to tripping. But definitely something and it was definitely fast. No more than 10 seconds before the feeling peaked off.
It wasnt the worst thing I have tasted but it wasn't very pleasant either. I'm not sure why I could feel it so fast. I was really surprised by it especially afterwards when i figured out that the concentration was only 17 mg/mL. It could be that I'm very sensitive to DMT. I will be able to shed some more light on the situation after a little experimentation to see if I can reproduce the effects.

So about myself. I'm a 23 year old male. For a long time I was as straight edge as they come, and didnt even try alcohol until after high school. I moved in with a friend a few years ago and got started smoking pot and went into a painkiller phase but got out of that after my friends switched from pills to heroine and currently can't smoke because of my job. I haven't tried many psychedelics to date but about 2 years ago tried mushrooms for the first time and it was one of the greatest experiences of my life. I've since done them a handful of times and it is by far my favorite thing to do. I've tried 2 morning glory extracts but only got mild effects but am planning on finding a better extraction method than the one i used. And I have smoked salvia a couple times.

But I love reading and learning about all kinds of psychoactives, especially when it comes to chemistry. I plan on starting college soon and working towards a degree in either botany or organic chemistry. I particularly like reading about ethnobotany. I first got the idea to try DMT from reading about ayuhuasca and the natives that use it and after digging around realized its pretty simple and straightforward to extract.

I used the limtek extraction to get the fumarate salt and was dissolving the salt in water to convert to freebase using sodium carbonate which I read in the BLAB tek. I picked the limtek because the ingredients are fairly easy to obtain without suspicion and I have too many neighbors in close proximity to be using other stronger smelling solvents.

As far as improving my yields, I have read almost every tek on the wiki and now its just a matter of practice to get the feel of it.

I strongly doubt this was placebo. It was too defined and I wasn't even thinking about if it was active sublingually. All I wanted to do was taste it and it really caught me off guard. My batch is currently sitting in the fridge trying to crystallized but as soon as i make the next batch I will try to validate that it wasnt placebo with a larger and accurately measured amount.

And again thank you for the welcome.

I don't think you got anything from it. If it's true that the concentration was 17mg/ml and you just dipped your fish dipped his fin, he probably got less than 1mg. Nowhere close to the active dose. These people here telling your fish it was a placebo are smart. You'd do well to listen to them considering. Next time have your fish drop a whole ML under his tongue and see what happens =\

P.S. It does no good to say your fish ate the stuff if you admit you made it later in the post. rofl.

Yea I got lazy. But I guess I will listen to you guys and accept that it was all placebo.

gory dkalz, you are in for a ride...

Haha. So I've heard. I'm really excited about it though. I'm really starting to regret picking this method of freebase conversion. It seems like nothing is happening. It does say to wait 3 day, I'm just impatient and want to get to the good part.