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Re-X using Acetone? Options
 
BobBobson
#1 Posted : 9/8/2011 3:44:19 AM
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I have recently extracted a batch of dmt using Ronsonol lighter fluid (I am in UK).

Just been vaping it just now and everywhere that I went had this greasy fluid lying around. I interperet this as being a result of some petrochemical residue in the DMT and naturally, I would like to clean it up some way.

In another thread, it was mentioned to me that I should consider an acetone recrystalisation in order to clean up my DMT.

Can anyone give me any clues as to what I should do if I want to do an acetone re-X?

Thanks.
 

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The Day Tripper
#2 Posted : 9/8/2011 4:10:53 AM

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I would try to get anhydrous acetone if you could. And either fumaric acid or another acetone soluble acid such as citric, etc. As long as the salt of dmt from whatever acid you choose is not soluble in acetone it will work.

First weigh your fb to guestimate how much acid to use to salt it out of the acetone. No need for unnecessary waste. No more than 1:1 fb:acid ratio is necessary imo. Next dissolve your "dirty" fb in some acetone. After its done dissolving dissolve the same amount of acid in some acetone. Once it dissolves, (shake it and have patience), you can pour the acetone with the acid dissolved in it into your acetone with fb dissolved in it. This will cause your alkaoids to precipitate out of solution, leaving any oils or lighter residue in the acetone.

Decant and filter off your alkaloid salts, and preferably powder as fine as possible and do another acetone wash. This should get out 99% of lighter fluid impurities since the acetone will pull off the oils, and powdering your crystals before washing will ensures no impurities will get caught up in the crystal structure and end up in the final product.

Your done now if you want long term storage or pharma, if you wish to freebase, then you can use either sodium carbonate or koh/naoh to precipitate it out of water. Just dissolve salts in water, then koh/lye/sodium carbonate/potassium carbonate in water and add teh basic water into the dmt salt containing water. Freebase will precipitate out, koh/lye realatively quickly, and sod/pot carbonate rather slowly. After precipitation, you MUST wash with some sodium carbonate water, and for the last wash a straight water wash. No koh/lye/sod/pot carb needs to end up in your end product.

The other option is mixing a 1:1 ratio of lime/salts with just enough water to get it pastey. Mix well, let sit for an hr or two, then spread out and dry on a low heat source or no heat at all (recommended). Once its dry powder it well to increase surface area with the solvent, and dump it in some acetone.

Decant and filter if necessary, saving the acetone, evaporating to yield an amorphous freebase oil, that will crystallize upon scraping to leave crumbly white crystals that are very clean.
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BobBobson
#3 Posted : 9/9/2011 1:26:00 AM
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Thanks for the infos! Would u mind cross checking my understanding of what you have written?

So the DMT fb will turn itself into a salt in the acid (fumaric/citric).

The DMT base is dissolved first into the acetone, and then a same amount of acid is mixed in what amount of acetone?.

I then mix the acetone/acid and the DMT base/acetone solutions at which point all the DMT salt will precipitate out of the solution, leaving most of the impurities behind in the acetone? I assume at this point the DMT salt is visible.

Also, how am I filtering out the DMT salts, Coffee filters?

By 'powder' do you simply mean 'chop up', or does this describe a chemical process?

And after that, it seems that I just repeat the standard extraction procedure but is there any specific alkaline/salt ration that I should adhere to here?

Finally as an aside, I have in the past put naphtha solution out to evaporate and been left not with crystals, but with a greasy substance that smells a lot like DMT but doesnt show any crystals. I have always just ended up throwing this out. am I throwing away 'freebase oil' dmt?

Thanks again.

 
 
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