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vladamirr
#1 Posted : 8/31/2011 12:37:21 PM

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Hello Nexians, I was wondering around the other day and came a crossed a piece of paper and this was written on it.

~~:Swims' Powdered MHRB Tek:~~
This Tech is Completely hypothetical and was never attempted; only observed.
This tech possibly shows how to create a strong base using a combination of two non-toxic chemicals.

100ml of room temp water was added to a 300ml container. Then added 1Tbs of Calcium Hydroxide, and was stirred until completely suspended. Then added 1Tbs of Sodium Carbonate and solution was stirred thoroughly [thus creating a very high ph without using any Dangerous or Hazardous materials. (Na2CO3 + Ca(OH)2 = CaCO3 + NaOH)]. Solution was poured from 300ml container to a Pyrex plate and allowed to lightly boil for 5 minutes, and then taken off direct heat. 1Tbs of powdered root bark was added to solution. Almost instantly 2 layers formed, the top being a Dark Black solution and a Bottom consisting of white chunks, oils, and light brown sludge. This was let sit for an hour or two and then gently the dark top layer was poured into a clean 300ml container. >45 ml were extracted off the top layer and put into the fridge to precipitate for 2-3 days.

Just wondering if it was any help at all.
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Enoon
#2 Posted : 8/31/2011 1:27:12 PM

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1 Tbs of root bark doesn't sound like a lot... plus, what solvent did you (or whoever) use. It sounds like all you did was use water. but I don't understand how layers coudl be formed.

Now the way I see it, if you have NaOH you have NaOH. It doesn't matter how you obtained it - whether it was in that form before you put it in solution or if it turned into that after mixing two other compounds - if this reaction works the way you say it does. NaOH is not really toxic... it's just highly reactive, so if you can get clean lye somewhere I don't see the problem. For ppl that can't get it I suppose this would be a cool way to get a strong base. Once again if this really works of course. I'm not a chemist and too tired to check online if this is a verified way of getting NaOH. What happens to the calcium carbonate? Is there some way to get rid of it? What is the PH at the end of this? What is it before you add the sodium carbonate?

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vladamirr
#3 Posted : 8/31/2011 7:26:41 PM

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Enoon wrote:
1 Tbs of root bark doesn't sound like a lot... plus, what solvent did you (or whoever) use. It sounds like all you did was use water. but I don't understand how layers coudl be formed.

Now the way I see it, if you have NaOH you have NaOH. It doesn't matter how you obtained it - whether it was in that form before you put it in solution or if it turned into that after mixing two other compounds - if this reaction works the way you say it does. NaOH is not really toxic... it's just highly reactive, so if you can get clean lye somewhere I don't see the problem. For ppl that can't get it I suppose this would be a cool way to get a strong base. Once again if this really works of course. I'm not a chemist and too tired to check online if this is a verified way of getting NaOH. What happens to the calcium carbonate? Is there some way to get rid of it? What is the PH at the end of this? What is it before you add the sodium carbonate?



I was regarding to "Wonderer's Water only Tek", but i do see room for improvement. More accurate ph levels and accurate Measurements will be posted when I stumble upon another piece of paper. And i see it this way. Lye is only "scarey" to some people because of it's violent reaction, heat, and Fumes Produced when mixed with water. So why not split the dangerous chem into two Non toxic and Non violent chems. Mix these and you have a solution that isn't as harmful to you're skin. Wanderer's water only tek requires a lower amount of lye, then say the Lazy man's Tek. I was thinking Swim could possibly give a 99% Alc wash after to grab the dmt from the other ingredients, then evap alc. The remaining Sodium Carbonate and Calcium hydroxide should be left behind because they are'nt soluable in Alc. Or a Cold water wash to get the remaining NaOH. This is all Theoretical of course. As sodium carbonate isn't harmful you could do either and have a non-toxic and active compound... am I Right.?

I Believe the Layers come from the Water being heavier then dmt, and it floats on top of the water as a Human body will float in a isolation chamber after adding over 600 pounds of epson Salts.
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