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Posts: 12 Joined: 05-Aug-2011 Last visit: 05-Oct-2016
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Hey I love this site lots of info.
First attempt yesterday using Q21Q21's tek.
Upon waking, checked and.. no precipitation whatsoever.
Have been reading around and it looks like I used way to much naphtha per pull.
Probably due to lack of proper measuring device..
But now ALL the rest of my naphtha is in a milk jug with bark/a/b mix.
And I can't buy any new because I don't get paid till next week.
Soooo should I evaporate any of it?
If I do I'm afraid I won't have enough left for more pulls.
Counting the jar in the freezer, I probably have 2 cups naphtha total.
BTW used 250g MHRB at once from good source and good naphtha.
(Should have used less for first extraction...):evil: All postings are mental exercises and hypothetical in nature.
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Posts: 6739 Joined: 13-Apr-2009 Last visit: 10-Apr-2022
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Typically when someone doesn't observe any precipitation it is due to the volume of their solvent.
Evaporate your naptha down to at least 1/3 of it's original volume before sticking it back in the freezer.
If this still yields nothing, you can try evaporating even more and repeating. Or you can evaporate the solvent completely.
If this fails...I would then speculate there wasn't enough base involved in your extraction and the spice didn't migrate to the non polar solvent at all.
Let us know how it goes.
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 12 Joined: 05-Aug-2011 Last visit: 05-Oct-2016
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After 2/3 evaped, ended up with less than .5%....
But I learned a lot and at least I know how I messed up.
(impatience, improper measuring, too much solvent)
Is there an ideal solvent to soup ratio?
Is there an ideal ph level to release product?
Well hopefully I can recover the rest of my spice when I get new solvent.
BTW
Soooooo just torched some steel wool and stuffed it in a pipe bowl.. works fine.
Isn't the machine just a ghetto pipe anyway?
All postings are mental exercises and hypothetical in nature.
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Posts: 6739 Joined: 13-Apr-2009 Last visit: 10-Apr-2022
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Maybe you could have kept pulling more to yield more product.
Use 30-90ml per pull. that is 1 to 3 shots.
the ideal pH is 13-14, it's also known as overkill, when your solution is jet black and the layers separate almost instantly, thats how you know if you dont have a pH meter.
And yes, the machine is just a ghetto pipe. :]
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Posts: 2688 Joined: 04-Dec-2010 Last visit: 25-Oct-2016 Location: space
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Spark wrote:After 2/3 evaped, ended up with less than .5%....
But I learned a lot and at least I know how I messed up.
(impatience, improper measuring, too much solvent)
Is there an ideal solvent to soup ratio?
Is there an ideal ph level to release product?
Well hopefully I can recover the rest of my spice when I get new solvent.
BTW
Soooooo just torched some steel wool and stuffed it in a pipe bowl.. works fine.
Isn't the machine just a ghetto pipe anyway?
Don't use steel wool! use copper/steel mesh instead. Proper ratio is about 1g bark and 1ml solvent. I wouldn't worry about the PH as if you do it correctly it's all good.
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 12 Joined: 05-Aug-2011 Last visit: 05-Oct-2016
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cool thanks guys my next extraction will be a lot smoother All postings are mental exercises and hypothetical in nature.
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Posts: 137 Joined: 12-Jul-2011 Last visit: 28-Oct-2015
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- You don't need to use very much solvent, just enough that you can stir it around all of your bark-mash. In my last 2/3lb extration, three small pulls filled an 8oz jar.
- Allow the mixture to basify for a few hours before pulling, rather than 1.
- Make sure your naptha is warm. If you're slick with a turkey baster, do your pulls in a crock pot on low.
- Allow some of the naptha to evaporate before freezing. This will increase the concentration and give you better pulls.
Haven't the foggiest how all that ended up in a milk jug if you were following q21q21's tek, but I won't ask either.
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