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failed Phalaris Arundinacea extraction Options
 
mictsekk
#1 Posted : 8/10/2011 2:13:45 PM
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I recently tried to do a phalaris extraction, but got nothing.

I collected some phalaris leaves at sunrise. The pot is pretty big but someone on mycotopia said maybe this is not enough material.


So I blended the leaves, cooked with vinegar (tested the pH too, it was around 4 I think), and reduced until I got this.


Then I did a couple of defats with naphtha. I pulled out the emulsion layer too, cuz I thought it was the fats >.<


I proceeded with basifying, using NaOH (my pH test strip only went as far as 12 but I'm pretty sure I basified enough). After that I pulled again with naphtha and let it vaporize. It didn't leave anything behind.

Here's the solution after defats and pulls


Was the naphtha supposed to be warm? I think I remember reading something about warm naphtha. Mine was not..
 

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smri
#2 Posted : 8/10/2011 4:35:41 PM

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First, let me say awesome try! We need more grass teks. Well done!

Why use NaOH at the end to basify? This is an AB yes? When you say vaporize do you mean evaporate? I thought it helped if the grass was dried...I'm not that versed in these teks tho.

Have you seen this thread? https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=16810
 
mictsekk
#3 Posted : 8/10/2011 10:24:28 PM
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NaOH (lye) is needed in order to make the DMT soluble in naphtha. vaporize = evaporate I think. Next time I will use dry grass but fresh grass can be used as well. I am following the thread you linked to, glad to see people experimenting with phalaris.
 
smri
#4 Posted : 8/11/2011 5:47:51 PM

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Have you thought about taking your goo and re-xing?
 
mictsekk
#5 Posted : 8/18/2011 12:24:09 PM
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That's the thing - there is no goo to talk about :/
 
Simon Jester
#6 Posted : 8/19/2011 6:09:53 AM

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That grass wasn't fuzzy, wuzzy?

I've had better results by way of...
-Dry/Powder the leaves
-Acidify over low heat with vinegar
-Reduce and defat (keep the interface layer, 'vap off the naptha and toss it back in)
-Basify with lime overnight
-Naptha wash in a crockpot on low/med heat.

You'd be better off with just evaporating the Naptha, unless you defat like a SAVAGE.
 
 
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