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vertigoshaman
#1 Posted : 8/9/2011 9:12:36 PM

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I have heard every smoking method claimed as the best and the worst, so now I would like to hear from you guys ( with actual breakthrough experiences ) what method has the fullest potential to send you strait to hyperspace with the least amount of hassle. Please tell me what method you have seen used for a legitament breakthrough and how much was smoked in how many hits if possible. Thanks guy, gotta love the nexus!
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#2 Posted : 8/9/2011 10:34:41 PM

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GVG > Machine / Amor Fati's Inspirator > Sandwich

25-35 mg depending on device, one hit.
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#3 Posted : 8/10/2011 1:13:33 AM
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..thin glass pipe with large bowl/small opening..50-60mg allowed to begin vaporizing before inhalation..2-3 large inhalations held in for as long as possible..quiet, dark setting..(this technique often requires bit of practice to maximise efficiency...)
 
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I have a hunch you may get a kick out of the link in my signature down below..

If I am going to breakthrough, I personally will have already been on LSD for a while, probably drank a light dose of banisteriopsis caapi tea on top of that, and would vape like 50-75mg on top of a bowl of ganja. Of course, old school techniques like this aren't nearly as conservative as a GVG, but you gotta spend 100$ for that thing anyway. I don't mind using DMT for the sake of breaking through! Some people claim it's a waste. For example: I like to smoke a changa joint with cannabis because it can be done in beautiful places at wonderful times without the need for some huge incriminating thing you gotta lug around. You can just puff a hyperspatial eternity in such windy bliss.....

That, to me, is far, far from wasting :]

Everyone has their own opinions and techniques they learn over time. I would also suggest you expose yourself to darkness for a good while before going in. Or at least have a dim candle going for a while. Too much exposure to light has the potential to diminish the experience, I have found.

Also, the key ingredient to a breakthrough that a lot of people forget: Simply holding those hits as long as you can. This means at least 15-20 seconds.

Before you do this, meditate for a while. Practice breathing deep, and slow. This will slow your heart rate. This also lowers the operational frequency of your brain. It's a simple and effective technique to ease the transition. I also mention this because doing this for a while helps holding in those long hits.

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#5 Posted : 8/10/2011 6:41:34 AM

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Thanks guys, btw great link! That was awesome info, ultimate spice guide
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#6 Posted : 8/10/2011 3:07:16 PM

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I use the GVG with the Arc torch lighter (useful because of its design to be lit upside down) often with only 10-15mg (I seem to have become more sensitive to it the more I've done it and the more I've refined my technique), holding the hits (usually 2, sometimes 1, sometimes 3) in as long as possible. Here's a little trick I learned that can really mean the difference between a mild experience and a full-on breakthrough. What you do is fill the vaporizer till it's milky white. I find the vapor to be pretty harsh and if I were to clear such a big hit in the same breath that I used to fill it, I would probably end up coughing it up, effectively wasting it all. What I've noticed is that once you hold the vapor in your lungs for like 3 seconds, even if your lungs were spasming like crazy, after around 3 seconds they just settle down and it doesn't even feel like you're really holding anything in. At that point, without exhaling, I clear the rest of the milky vapor and don't feel a thing. It feels like you're breathing in air, and at that point, I hold in the collective hit for as long as I can. If I get a really good hit, in just one hit before exhaling I can often see reality begin to entirely transform before my open eyes with multidimensional holographic energies and objects emerging from my walls and surroundings. That little trick really helped to predictably revolutionize my experiences, so just to recap:

Fill the vaporizer/smoking device as much as you can
Hold it in for as long as it takes for your lungs to calm down and for the harshness to fade
Without exhaling, clear whatever's left in the vaporizer (chasing it with a quick breath of air to make sure you get all that DMT into your lungs and out of your mouth/throat) and hold in that hit for as long as you can.
If you feel up to it, take another hit in the same fashion.
This works much better than if you were to fill it, hold in the hit, exhale and then clear the rest.
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#7 Posted : 8/10/2011 4:47:26 PM

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25-30mg on a copper mesh disc in a GVG heated with an Arc torch lighter. A dose can be inhaled in about 15 seconds, with most of the dose vaporized and inhaled in 1-3 seconds.

There’s nothing quite like getting almost a full dose inhaled in a few seconds. Shocked
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vertigoshaman
#8 Posted : 8/10/2011 4:58:57 PM

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Thanks, I'll look into a GVG. I've seen them before but didn't know if they were well suited for spice.
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#9 Posted : 8/10/2011 9:22:07 PM

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I had best results with a simple glass testtube, sucking up the vapors with a glass 'reed'.

But this requires some skill, it's certainly not fool proof. Procedure:

1. Heat the tube in a not-too-small candle flame, keep it in the middle of the flame. Here it is cooler than above the flame and the heat spreads around the tube, heating the glass over a large area, preventing the DMT from running away, condensing on cool glass paers nearby (like in so many lightbulb efforts). The tube will get sooty but that's easily wiped off.
2. Exhale and then suck pretty hard as soon as it starts to boil. The air flow must be high to cool the boiling DMT and heated area of the tube. Sucking hard prevents burning.
3. As soon as the lungs are half full, take it way from the flame but keep inhaling. Don't keep it in the flame for too long, some of the DMT will burn or vaporize without being inhaled!
4. Keep it in as long as possible. Any smoke you exhale is a waste of precious DMT...
Don't cough!!!. The lungs can take it. If you start coughing, exhalation of the same caustic vapors make the poor throat cough even more - it's a self-amplifying process. After a while, the lungs have absorbed most of the harsness and you can exhale without problems.
My best DMT had no harshness at all smoked this way, on the contrary: divine and spicy like cinnamon, like an Elixir!
Most harshness of impure DMT is in the first whiffs in my experience, it can't hurt to pre-heat it a bit and suck off any harshness before the Big Hit.

The whole inhalation procedure takes maybe 7-10 seconds plus holding in for at least 20 secs. Repeat as required Pleased

Some DMT will condense on the tube walls. Although very pure, it's a waste of time chasing this with a flame. Recovering with a solvent once in a while is more sensible.

It's not the most popular way of administration but it works for me...

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#10 Posted : 8/20/2011 11:01:26 AM

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So far the favourite method I have seen is to make your own DMT infused herb. It's a great procedure that will connect you with the material and the plants. Adding a plant that is local and wild and or something you have grown is a beautiful experience.

The changa is so easy to smoke and with a pinch of mint if completely refreshing. A glass pipe and a gentle pull, not letting it burn to hot works like a charm. Breakthrough, holding in one long hit first time every time.

I haven't seen much success smoking crystal, trying to vape it in a light bulb style vaporiser. It was harsh, fiddly and hard to get a good dose.
It's all personal preference but infused herb for me all the way!
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