Dorge wrote: I used to be a mod on the aya forum. The place degenerated into a haven for zealotry and lots of ego. I went there excited about changa posting about it... I might as well have walked into a church and took a shit.
lol. Sad, but lol.
Quote: What it boils down too is politics. They hope to get ayahuasca legally recognized as a church sacrament and to do that they have to keep dmt out of the public attention. Smoked dmt cannot be to them equated with ayahuasca and neither can extractions.
That's what I figured. It's a silly thing, but I can't blame them because that strategy has actually had some success. I could see why they would want to try to use the same strategy to succeed more. However, it seems the most likely times that religious use arguments work in America is when the argument is presented by non Americans, or Native Americans. If a white guy says he uses ayahuasca as medicine, he's a deviant and a freak, but if a native uses ayahuasca, it's a rich cultural heritage that should not be denied...... generalizing big time of course. A lot of times, not even natives enjoy the right to their spiritual practice ie: peyote in America. And, for some reason, the state also seems to be more likely to allow things that are plants, and not extract. Marijuana is a big exception of course. Maybe it's because the mere dried leaf is so potent.
Sorry about your bad experiences at the ayahuasca board.