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#1 Posted : 7/31/2011 8:17:35 PM

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SWIM was wondering if there are any good teks for fresh cacti. as SWIM does not like to dry the cacti he feels it may damage the spirit.
any advise would be nice as SWIM is planning another extraction soon,and would like to know id he should just start drying the cacti out. Thanks
 

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#2 Posted : 7/31/2011 8:57:07 PM

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I haven't tried this yet but it should work well : House's cacti preparation tek

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#3 Posted : 7/31/2011 9:18:24 PM

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thanks for the reply mySmelf i have done this and it does work well. but i am now looking for a more large scale a/b extraction
 
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#4 Posted : 8/1/2011 9:51:16 PM

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I did this.

Took 32 inches of reduced bridgesii tea. About 200ml I think. Added 400ml of basified water, 120g lye. (I always add a little extra lye cuz the stuff sticks to my glass cup) Of course, you gotta add lye slowly, with gloves and eye wear yada yada.

Swirl this a lot. Shaking caused an emulsion even in a tea with little sediment. Add solvent, I used toluene. Just add enough to pull, 2 inch layer worked for me. Swirl, set, repeat many times. Let settle and separate an hour or two. When you pull your solvent, it's good to set the jar of solvent, into warm water, to help any last bits of water to escape from the solvent. Add your acid of choice, swirl and settle, takes just a minute, and remove you aqua acid layer. This is best done in a thinner cylinder jar, ime, so that the water is easier to pull. If you just have regular jars though just angle the water to a corner to get the most.

Umm, tek? If I were to do another extraction, I'd do it much the same, on a larger scale. Say 8-16 feet, or about 20lbs or more fresh cut. Cut up in chunks, simmer 2 hours, strain, repeat, 3rd pull I'd boil the shit out of it. Filter once or twice, nothing excessive, metal strainer what I used. Take 3 pulls, combine, and reduce, or you can reduce as you go if you short on pots like me.

I'd reduce to a liter. Add a liter of basified water. Alternately you could add couple hundred mls to a couple jars, just break it down. Whatever you want. Add your solvent, shake, settle, pull, add acid water to solvent, about 1/5 the amount of solvent. Pull your water and allow it to evaporate SLOWLY.

I made a thread in Cacti - Extracting from tea, about this, here, basically if you know what's going on it's super fucking easy. Make tea, then a STB like w/ mimosa, + 1 step for the acid pull, be careful
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#5 Posted : 8/3/2011 4:19:59 AM

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Thanks for the reply lavos. what what was your yeild with the 32 inches fresh?

thanks sounds good. ill probibly give this a go my next time around. ive been thinking of trying a STB on cacti, just havent heard to muchon that method being used for cacti.
 
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#6 Posted : 8/3/2011 4:48:53 AM

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Uhhh, the 32 inches was about 2-2.5 inches wide, and weighed around 1800 or so I think. Came out with 650 or so mg, uncleaned.

If you say 1800 x .05 (5%) that's about an estimated 90g dry. So the work was about on par I suppose. Also I forgot to watch my tea for about 5 minutes at the end reduction stage, and it kinda burned a lil and I had to add water, so, might have lost some yield there.

I would use torch or pedro in the future, and keep bridgesii for teas. Tea fricking rocks, and the taste is ok with me.
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#7 Posted : 8/3/2011 5:25:04 AM

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Right on, thanks for the info.

That's a big part of why i don't want to use any heat in my extractions, loss of potential yield.

I have only ever used pedro in my cacti extractions or tea. And oh yes tea is an amazing experience,but i tend to leave tea for more spiritual/ritualistic occasions.

My last extraction was from 2 feet of 2 in wide pedro that had been in my freezer for a week or 2 it ended up weighing 50gs dry and i got about 550mg uncleaned from that.
Using 69rons tek but with xylene as i cannot get d-limonene unfortunately.
 
 
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