So you're suggesting we decide to see the things we see during DMT experiences?

Have you ever had DMT Newfound?

I was going to eventually ask the same question.

I'm saying DMT makes us see weird shit that we've never seen before or will never see again and are left with the harrowing task of figuring out whatthefuck happened. The sensations are novel and unfamiliar but our brain does its best to make sense of what is going on.



Yes. Months ago. I've seen what looks like a bejeweled mandelbulb basketball and have felt the psychedelic neurosurgery from God, only to realize that these kinds of experiences don't make me a stronger or healthier person. I'd be better off riding a bicycle or talking with friends. If anything it shook my confidence and disrupted my ability to interact with the real world. Maybe the best lesson I learned from DMT is to not take anything that happens during the DMT experience too seriously. Not everyone has to enjoy the DMT experience.

I guess it's kind of stupid of me to try to change your mind though.

DMT affects everyone differently, and the DMT experience is definitely not for everyone. If you’ve come to realize that it doesn’t help you in any way, then your choice not to use it again is a wise one.

Please realize that your experience doesn’t mirror the experiences of most members of this forum. There’s nothing wrong with that, and differing points of view are helpful and healthy. But try to understand that all of us speak from our individual, unique experiences.

That's cool. I understand now that not everyone will like the DMT trip and some will even wish it never happened. Some will even feel like they have been deceived. This place is filled with so much wisdom and knowledge!

Newfound I respect your opinion and personal experiences, but, I have yet to meet anyone who wishes they hadn't experienced DMT. Those that have had intense/bad trips were grateful for the experience.

My own personal experiences with DMT can be counted with my hands and toes, however, I am left with the distinct impression that there is way more knowledge "over there" so to speak. I feel like we are on the side of the veil that is not exactly transparent.


much love

joebono

To be honest, my emotional outburst was the product of defending my views against Gibran's anti-science rhetoric combined with JWH withdrawal. I honestly don't understand why people get so upset when I suggest that what you see, hear, feel, smell, and taste during the DMT experience has to do with your brain.

Sorry for the bad attitude.

Hey! I’m not anti-science at all. If I come across that way sometimes (and I know I do) it’s to stimulate thought. DMT produces some very strange subjective phenomena. Very strange indeed. These phenomena may actually be telling us something about the nature of reality that we can’t readily discover by other means. To dismiss these phenomena as “just” brain glitches may prevent us from scientific advancement.

To “explain” DMT phenomena by simply stating “it’s just the result of neurochemical imbalances and inappropriate activations in the brain” is intellectually lazy. Such statements tell us nothing about DMT phenomena and tell us little about the brain – they are explanations that explain nothing.

Our knowledge of the world around us doesn’t grow when we try to explain every phenomenon in terms of phenomena that we already understand. As I’ve said before, sometimes a square peg just doesn’t fit in a round hole, no matter how hard you hammer on it.

i've never seen your jester, but i've encountered a mirthful entity.

about a minute or so into an amazing OEV trip, my room exploding with brightly colored geometric/organic hallucinations, i got the distinct impression that someone was on my right side mooning me. every strong OEV trip that i've had contains a female entity on my right side. but mooning me?

i couldn't believe it so i turned my head like it was on a swivel, but there was nothing there.
i went back to my trip but after a short while there it was again. someone was sticking their ass about a foot from my face on the right side of my head. what the hell. this is too weird to be true. might not wanna tell your girlfriend this detail, i think.

but i know if i turn to look there will be no one there, like before, so i resist the urge to turn my head and continue enjoying the visuals. about another minute later i noticed the entity had turned around and was now facing me smiling beatifically. she was a smallish angelic, fairy-like creature whose grin filled me with joy, even though i could only see it out of the corner of my eye. then, from the muddiness of my periphery, she leaned down, kissed me on the cheek, giggled, then flew away.

i was laughing with a tear rolling down my cheek when i cam out of that one. absolutely delightful.

Yeah, I have experienced 'jester' like entities when out n about... They didn't seem to be too happy to see me, and were sort fo jumping at me, almost trying to 'shoo' me away. I sat and watched their vain attempts until I came down. The whole room was monochrome, pulsing, moving grids of patterns, with the jester figures leaping out of it. Quite impressive to watch, but

It's trip 2 on here if anyone wants to have a read, no one commented so far I need to get that picture up as well!

in the tribal sense i remember coming back from a breakthrough i looked at my buddy and i saw tribal tattoo looking things appear all over his skin. was pretttttty cool

ive seen the jester as well. it looked very similar to acolon_5's avatar picture only with very long legs ''i think'' lol. he was deffenitly my guide through that experience. ive also had a vision where it seemed like i was in one of those 3D art images that were popular in the 90's and certain objects which seem important for some reason were popping out. the only one i can really recall was what i beleive is an illustration from the darwin theory (not positive) with the guy with 4 arms and legs inside a circle.

What a weird domain it is.

could the jester be "the fool" represented in tarot?

To the topic starter: I relate to what you are saying,

It was face/ shoulders mainly, the lower half of the body you did not get to see/ work out. They them selves were white/ black only, with a top hat (old school style), with writing in a thin goldenish band or so around the column (very electric) it looked very similar to Allyon Greys "secret writing" art work. Face was 4 sections black/white at opposing coroners but would flow around the face/shoulders. The vibe they gave off was of a trickster.

To some it could, to some it could not be. I think it's difficult to tell anything with 100% certainty when talking about entities of DMT space. All I can do is

Yeah me an and my friend were just comparing stories an noticed the jesters always appearer at the end of the trip. Atm they keep hiding and jumping out when I see them they stick two fingers up at me (swearing) and smile...always makes me laugh but also makes me a little cautious of them. I have a woman how controls my visions. If I criticise a part of my previous trip she over does it next time to.....teach me a lesson.

Try this complain out loud what your trip is lacking, this is what iv complained before.

Its not long enough
it's not strong enough
it's not detailed enough
it will never be too strong or scary for me
I never remember much

My last trip blam I thought I knew what dmt is all about. And all I could say over and over is this is not what I thought. The woman kept me there until I admitted it was long enough, strong enough and she was running things. But while she was doing this I was living 5 different existences, she pulled me out of one put me in another but in-between she messed with me...aaah .craziness And I could remember loads.

Try it voice what lacks in you trip and watch the magic. Nice report

I was watching my wife play Katamari and noticed that the "King of the Cosmos" resembles a DMT Jester.





Creepy huh?