After 23mg SWIM has a different experience than what he sees from others. This has happened on the last 4 or 5 launches.

swim launches with the expected geometrics etc. but instead of the "normal" phases described by others here, he finds himself in a seemingly normal reality, as himself, doing different things, normal things, but he's not on spice. then at some point swim realizes his eyes are open and hes back in this reality, and tripping hard.

It's like he exists in two parallel realities that are very similar yet different. In the other reality he knows about spice but is not under its influence. When he comes back to this reality he is confused and when he integrates what just happened, it is then he remembers hitting the spice and that he is still really really high.

Could it be he exists in a parralell univers and spice allows him to experience the other for a few minutes?

In many ways it is like a dream.

Swim thinks that if he ups the dose he may have a different experience.

Has anyone here had similar experience?

It's pretty much different experience for everyone. And often even to one person each experience is different. I'm sure there are parallel realities/universes. Your experience sounds similar to dreaming.

While the experiences do vary widely I hear common themes. The experience swim is having doesnt match anything I've read here. There was nothing phsycedelic about the exoerience in this other reality. He was just there doing nothing really extra ordinary and totally straight.

His first couple of times with spice were more along the lines of other experiences here. The dome, geometric patterns, zooming through space, entities. But lately, other than the blastoff, its been different.

Well I've actually read on the forum that people have changed into someone else and looking at normal(or dream like) reality through another's eyes. So you shouldn't be alone with this kind of experience. It's just an experience among others, it's up to you to try and learn from it(if there is something to learn)

Interesting. In Swim's latest encounter with the spice he knew it was him in this other reality. In other encounters it wasnt as clear and he assumed it was him.

In the lastest encounter he learned something about spice and was in the process of typing an email to a friend to tell himn about it when he switched back to this reality. Wish he could remember what the spice discovery was...

Hyperspace is more interwoven than parallel, at least that's the way it appears, I really do not claim to have any authority or any real knowledge regarding this stuff. Only ideas.

To me it always seems like hyperspace is our reality in a higher octave of frequencies, hence why the colors look so different. It really is a mystery. One of the most profound mysteries ever even attempted to be fathomed in our trivial existence...

I have done this a few times I think. I hit the pipe and felt the usually buzz coming on. Everything starts shimmering and dividing as it usually does so I sit back and allow it to overcome me. But instead of breaking through to a fractally, morphing world, I am in the same place only somewhat different. After sitting there for a second or two, I am hit with an utter confusion about everything. Like my mental processes are normal until I hit a stump. Like I may get the thought, "What if someone walks in on me right now?" and then I can't understand the concept of a world outside my door. Existence seems like such a far off concept. Then I begin laughing because everything that I use to interpret reality is gone, and I realize how fucked up I am.

I usually just hit the pipe again. haha.

Does that seem anything like your experience?

Salvia gives me a much stronger sense of parallel realities than does DMT. In fact, once while using salvia, I entered into a parallel world – virtually indistinguishable from the one I just left – and then I “woke up”. I never returned to where I started from. So did I awake in a new world?

in one experience, yes, swim was in the same place, but not confused, just doing different things. in other experiences swim was somewhere else, but still not under the influence, just doing something different. that ast part about realizing how f'd you are resonates real well tho. LoL

does doing another hit take you farther?

Its pretty fascinating and after reading about parallel universe theories that are seriously put forth by the physics community, its compelling to have this experience. The striking thing is the normalcy of this other reality. In dreams crazy stuff happens that makes no sense but not in the alternate reality swim experiences (so far anyway).

swim will up the dose to see if this is just a low dose issue. He would like to get back to that experience he had the first time. it was more psychedelic and involved entities.

swim wonders if this is a nmt or degraded dmt issue? He isnt sure what the symptoms are for that class of spice.....

Sometimes. It mostly just takes me back, if that makes since. Obviously I am coherent enough to shakily pick my pipe back up, but I'm still pretty much gone. I would say it just maintains the level that I am at.

I've heard of the kind of experience that you've been having, but have never been fortunate enough to experience it myself. May we both find what we're looking for

My friend lived out the life of a gangster in some alternate reality on his second ever dose. Apparently everyone drove around in Koi Carp. It helped him stop drinking. Weird stuff indeed...

It happened again. 28mg. This time he started the song "Room 23" by shpongle while still holding in the hit. Next thing he knows the room is quiet and hes trippin hard. 5 minutes of lost time. He needs to work on dream memory....

Hi Dimensionless,

Very interesting experiences you have been having. I wonder if you could send yourself a message from the alternate reality.
As in writing a note or voice recording and email or store it somewhere to give it to yourself.
If you were clear and able to remember where you are you might be able to find some paper and test where this alternate place/time is.

I am sure there would be some type of information within the new setting to garner.

p.s. i will continue the story we stared the other week again soon.

Have a create day & Stay well

Thats a pretty cool. I will try to keep that in mind. As i said earlier, memory is an issue but I'm working on it. I read that syrian rue may help with memory(?)