SWIM decided to take a journey the other night. SWIM had their MP3 player with them and their sitter.
SWIM measured out 42mg of white spice, had their torch lighter ready to go, and their MP3 player starting on a relaxing, wonderful song. SWIM took 1 hit, held it in as long as they could, and let out a large cloud of vapor. Almost instantly, SWIM hit hyperspace as they closed their eyes.
Normally, SWIM does 25-30 mg of white spice, and the only time SWIM ever did a larger amount, SWIM kept their eyes open.
SWIM doesn't remember much, only a heavy red fog rolling in on them at the beginning. SWIM made it through their starting song in hyperspace and sort of came-to in the middle of the next song. SWIM's MP3 player was on random, which was a big mistake. Instead of listening only to slow, relaxing music, SWIM's MP3 player had chosen a song that was very fast and wild. When the song picked up a lot of speed, SWIM remembers spheres rushing around them in hyperspace, and they scared SWIM. As soon as they sensed SWIM's fear, they began rushing at SWIM, attacking them. SWIMs family appeared at this time, but they were warped and unfriendly. The warped, creature-like images of them also rushed SWIM. At this time, SWIM kind of realized who they were again, and what SWIM was doing. SWIM quickly opened their eyes and took their headphones off as soon as they could manage. After that, SWIM sat next to their sitter, still feeling heavy under the influence of the spice, but thankful to be out of hyperspace. It took SWIM awhile to calm down and meditate on the experience.
SWIM has never ever had a hostile experience before in hyperspace. SWIM didn't like the experience, but SWIM is glad it happened. The experience will better prepare SWIM for what they may have to deal with the next time they decide to venture back there. SWIM will also be much more prepared in the future and take even greater care when setting up their environment with friendly music.

Scary ones always show me my own demons.

Same with me and that's all entheogens,not just the spice. Personally I'd think hard about what happened before tripping or blasting off again, although another experience could help clarify it, that's up to you.

..hope u feeling better,

preparation is a big part of successful entheogenic practice..had similar experience when a lot younger.
i recommend doing some research on various shamanic (e.g. S.American indigenous) practices (without necessarily adopting them).
these experts spend a lot of time getting their prep and setting together. (& yeah, the 'wrong' music can be intense).
i would always do as much research as possible before trying anything.
best wishes..

your own shadow is your hardest tester

It was certainly a learning experience that SWIM plans to think about for awhile before venturing forth again. SWIM has thought about it for the past few days and will continue to do so for some time.
SWIM will certainly be putting forth a lot more effort into preparing a friendly environment with gentle music and stimuli for any future experiences.
SWIM has been thinking a lot about learning meditative techniques and with this last experience, SWIM fully intends on learning about them now.

Well, I had my first evil entity contact on the spice last night. This time I tried blasting off in the dark, but before I even hit the lights I knew something was going to be different. Ended up being a solid and enlightening trip though.

I think the meditation is a great idea wispy! it's been a great practice in my life all around, even when not including its usefulness in psychedelic travels. But I will say that my trip could have ended very differently if I didn't remember to open my love and energies and direct it towards the creature, and my practice in concentration meditation most definitely helped hone my ability to do just that.

..u 1 step ahead,
meditation techniques, yeah great

Terence McKenna talks about the spheres but they are normal.

http://www.youtube.com/w...ure=youtube_gdata_player

Do you relate to that part of his description?

SWIM knows that they are normal, SWIM has seen them in various other journeys. And it is pretty similar to what McKenna describes, with them rushing into SWIM. It was just interesting that as soon as SWIM became afraid of them, they rushed SWIM at that time, along with glimpses of twisted figures of SWIM's family members which also rushed at SWIM in a hostile way.
Usually the spheres are not fast though. From what SWIM remembers, when SWIM saw the spheres previously, they were flowing out slowly from an entity and when they reached SWIM that time, SWIM was filled with feelings of love, not terror.

@distracted, SWIM finds it incredible that you can remember to open up positive energies to an entity that you see. Usually, SWIM is overcome with a sense of awe and has little or no awareness of themselves or SWIMs body. Sort of what McKenna says in hueyii's link, to not be overcome by that sense of awe and wonder. It is something that SWIM is going to try and practice upon when SWIM begins with their spice journeys again.. SWIM would like to be able to control the experience to some extent if its possible.

my friend agrees that control or at least letting go is the key. i was listening to a lecture on how we die from gnosticradio.com and he talked about dying not being much different than entering the dream state. he talks about the masters being able to maintain an egoless state as they fall asleep as part of preperation for death. the idea fits well with a spice experience.

i like to think that this idea of death is accurate. it expliains the concept of purgatory where if you arent diciplined, entering hyperspace will put you int a confused tumble or a falsee reality where you think you are still alive.

your post is interesting to me and hearing that it resonates with terence really encourages me that i am on the path and his descriptions are accurate. not sure what caused the negativity for you but the music as you surmised was probably the culprit. in other talks by terence, he talks about music and language being somewhat divine and powerful. maybe thats why he preferred a dark room with silence.

happy trails next time.

SWIM certainly agrees with this. All of SWIMs experiences with music have been very incredible and overwhelming, usually in a good way but still overwhelming nonetheless. However, SWIMs most sacred experiences have been outside studying a lone tree or watching clouds. The sounds and sights of nature have a special beauty that resonate deeply with SWIM.

..:idea: i'll 2nd that!

also, rivers talk...

Hey wispycat, glad to hear you came out of the experience with such a positive mind, considering the circumstances, I cant seem to find the thread, but there was one up on the nexus recently about a cloudy figure, or fog, as an entity or being, and quite a few nexians described the colour of the fog, foreshadowed what their trip is going to be like, and i believe everyone said red was a sign of a bad trip

Glad to see your mentally stable after your experience, and strange to see yet another person saw the cloud or fog!

Happy travels

Wispy, you are amazingly strong. Reading your report gave me chills and doubts about DMT, but your own reaction to your trip reminded me that I can be that strong, too, and face all my demons and even if they make me shit my pants, they can't make me shit my soul.

Meditation, huh? Check this out, I just discovered it and it seems ridiculously awesome:

http://www.livingworksho...t/ob-bookofsec-comp.html

It contains the sacred texts on Tantra, and is completely free in pdf format!

Recently I rejoined the ohm in creation(the name I will use for the place I blasted off into, the reason for this should be apparent after reading through) for the first time. I have been skeptical of attempting to do so, as I had been advised of DMT's powers, but with a shaman's agreement to answer my phone calls if I needed help, and people around me whom I was comfortable with I was ready to give it a shot. There were two couples and only the men where trying the DMT.
Using a water pipe mixed with herbs my buddy took a hit, using a BIC lighter, grabbed a pillow and laid on top of it. Passing me the pipe I filled it with what was left on the table, not knowing he eyeballed his dose, and I packed the rest of what was on the table, took the biggest hit possible, held it for as long as possible, and repeated again for good measure. It was night and the room was lit uniformly. Within moments everything looked different in the best way I could have ever conceived, I smiled wide asked the people in the room "was it always this way?"(for a moment considering that they always knew of this place and were on a mission to bring me back to it.) and began to euphorically (the best way, but yet a very poor service, to describe one of the many indescribable emotions that were to come) begin to see everything for what it was, in a spiritual sense. As I believe now that as shrooms helped me appreciate nature and the natural world, DMT has shown me the spiritual and psychological truth.
Falling harder into the trip this spine shivering, hair standing up feeling of truth, love, happiness, revolution, joy and many other emotions grew, and in this growth, now fading away from standard reality I knew what was to happen next, felt a feeling of acceptance wash away my slight fear and anxiety(including the one about my friends conspiring and knowing of this place, as the being I was to meet implanted in my consciousness that what I was about to see was the total chaos, that I would understand it all soon, and that almost nobody, especially not them yet, knew such a holy realm existed.)
I smiled so hard and wide my body felt as if it had just become love (another emotion which is obvious in creation, and is otherwise not describable. However this one certainly hold a similar feeling of when you are having a great time with a close loved one, laughing and relaxing it up. Which to me certainly means that the love we feel in everyday life is the best thing in the world because it reminisces being back in the ultimate and ever perfectly changing womb of creation.)
At that point my eyes rolled to the back of my head, and my head fell back limp, resting with my face up in a couch style one person chair maintaining the smile for the coming fifteen minutes. At that moment my world went dark, however there was no feelings of fear, but strong curiosity, a continued feeling of my body electrification (hair standing, etc. described above), and an unbelievable feeling of togetherness.
In my head I heard a voice say to me chopped up slightly but on purpose h- ha-h-ho-hol-h-holll-holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...t (that sound where all of the eyes were is the ohm and it is said in a unique way, the sound is much more frequent and higher pitched than the common Tibetan monk ohms) perhaps I will post an example on you-tube if I feel I can recreate it well enough.) The sound wavered at times, and repeated as well as being mixed in with other phrases to be described. This was part of my consciousness being brought back and forth between what seemed to be multiple realities, possibilities, and dimensions. At times I forgot that I was on inside a trip and that is when the sound would reappear, changing me to a different spiral of possibility inside creation. Other phrases I remember it using are Insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..ne which continued with the same ohming vibration. I know this one may sound scary so I must explain now that it was not at all, in fact I appreciated and could not have been more comfortable inside the infinite chaos that it relayed to me. In creation this sound was there to infer things that a conversation between us could not have, it is about more than words when it comes to true knowledge. This true chaotic love that I was with seemed to be none other than creation itself. In creation it seemed that a being was particularly interested in me, and that was what I believe to be my spirit egging me on in a taunting yet playful and harmless fashion toward what I felt was very powerful knowledge. I believe that these sounds held more powerful messages of emotion and intuition (meaning that through the emotions I felt I could understand what it was teaching me, and had to trust what felt like a gut feeling, but held the emotion of obeying a gut feeling and having it pay off in the most significant way possible, like saving yours or a life for example.)
Event from the early beginning of the trip I was taught very well and powerfully that trusting my intuition was dire. In the past year or so I have actually been focusing on understanding my intuitions, and learning to follow them in standard reality, which may have been a premonition to get me ready for this trip is what I felt while I was out there.
Being out there: time out there in creation is not a factor as I said before I was brought spiraling through dimensions which were vast and of infinite proportions in each one and as a collective whole. It seemed just as quantum physics always explained it, reality creating new realities in a hydra like fashion with one holding every little possibility and ever expanding from it. If you are following this, yes whatever it is, is massively expansive and also could be very tiny, but size as time are only dimensions. To try to further relate this it seemed as if there was a different reality with me wearing every single different combination of clothes in my closet, a new universe for each possibility of food I chose at any given time, also realities without time, where humans don't exist, where the grass grows in mandalas, where we can make moving tattoos, like I said an infinite amount of infinitely compounding realities with every difference at all played out entirely are all just part of the loving chaotic ohm which is creation.
In this my premonitions, in my life before this trip, about one love came true in a way. I have held for some time now that we are all of one love, which entails myself living by "the golden rule", which now seems it was a great as in this web of realities, examining this creation with logic I found that at one point or another we have all been each other as these different realities are not all mine as we all share in each reality.
All of this could have happened in three seconds, several minutes, or hours there was no way to tell, and I have been working to get my order of events right, but there is so much that I forgot and so much I could not event attempt to explain.
After going through the spiraling realities my spirit settled me in a room. An all white room with white floors, and one wooden looking door. I sat in this room in the right corner of the rectangle room. Looking back on it I can tell this room was a rectangle of the golden ratio, and so was the door. In this room were the four people in the room I was in, in standard reality. However, I was an observer from an area right above my head. I could see myself and myself looked at me, this is when I met my spirit. I feel this way because it looked somewhat like me, but it was what I strive to be, it had more attitude, intellect, and was confidently loving. I say these things because when I looked into it's eyes it reaffirmed the truths I had just seen, helped my consciousness come to knowing, and nurtured me with the emotions it instilled in me. This is a moment that cured my anxiety, paranoia, and jealousy in standard reality which I have been battling, but now are not prevalent in any way at any time in my daily activities. I think this cure could have come about because it just instilled an incomprehensible truth in me about everything that is indescribable, and I am probably doing it a very poor description but I can only do my best.
After looking at myself, I looked at my friend, what was what I believe to be his spirit as well as he looked slightly different, but when our spirits locked eyes, wide eyes locked as to interchange messages without saying anything, and huge grins on our faces, I once again asked him if this was how it always was? He answered that this is how it always was and always will be as the infinite creation recycles itself to itself. Looking at the girls they were less ecstatic, and I figured it is because they had not dosed.
After spending some time in this room and delving back into the creation a few times as my spirit had to bring me back through it all whenever I had forgotten what it taught me. At these times of forgetfulness it was also when I forgot I was in a trip, so when I would question is it always like this? the answer from my spirit was to get the gist of it no, then I would remember I was out there on DMT and recycle through the emotions, happenings of the reality spiraling before I could settle.
This is where it starts to get sketchy, my spirit related some thoughts about "hes never been here before," in excitement, but also at that point I felt a greater force notice me, a seemingly expansive black force, that did not necessarily like the knowledge it noticed my spirit taught me. Feeling this, and feeling that it did not want me to say what I had learned, I wanted to show it that it could not stop me, I was not evil, and at that point in a defiant effort to make noise I tried to scream to no avail. Now slightly in realization that its not all sunshine and rainbows I looked at it like a test, and if I wanted to come back to reality I would have to see my task. I then began playing "Know Your Enemy" by Rage Against the Machine in my head and focusing on singing along to it. Looking back now its ironic that the early lyrics actually say ,"Still in a room without a view
Ya got to know
Ya got to know
That when I say go, go, go
Amp up and amplify
Defy
I'm a brother with a furious mind
Action must be taken
We don't need the key
We'll break in"
I was in a room without a view, in the white room, which others have seen in other ways based on my studies in others' experiences. Ya got to know is the feeling I had about where I was, in terms of wanting to share with others and tell them this is a very beautiful thing, though its incredibly strong so be prepared to the fullest, sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. Then when the time for saying go came, and I was amped up to defy this force with ohm power from my furious(as in rushing not unhappy) mind, action was taken by me after, to get back to standard reality. Which I wound up back in my living room screaming "fuck you" powerfully in a deep rocker metallica style voice three times, and I was unchained and free to act. I took this chance to try to relate in words everything I had found. I apparently spilled off about "Ohm is everything, ohm is so powerfully infinite, ohm is everything." For a final connection to that song I did not need a key to the door in the white room to get in, I broke-in and saw our spirits inside the room, and there was two of us in the room therefore "we broke in." Not saying it means much, but it is an interesting afterthought or a revelation depending on how you want to look at it.
I then fell back into creation where I believe I was brought through the cycle a final time for my spirit to ensure that I got the necessary information, and on my way out it was peaceful and nothing confronted me or tried to hold me there. The holy shiiiiiiiii... t phrase was prevalent in sounds I heard when running back through. Hearing my spirit say this was so beautiful to me, and I could learn whatever it wanted me to just through listening to the sound it made.
Upon full on return to standard reality, it seemed as if something about this reality we are in is unique and draws much more energy to it, not saying it is the reality, but it is a more stable reality and this is evident when coming back as it is one of the easiest to get into, and therefore easiest to return to as you will be able to manifest your consciousness back into your body.
The Aftertrip: once back to reality I immediately began to try to describe all the happenings, and beauty of it to those in the room. Knowing I couldn't I was still not discouraged, and poured out poetically.
The gist of said poetry was:
Everything is nothing
Nothing is everything
A loving chaotic ohm is the essence of what comprises everything
That ohms beginning may have caused a "big bang" type of occurrence where everything manifested. I believe that the first sound, and what comprises everything in the universe may be the phrase h- ha-h-ho-hol-h-holll-holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...t. It sounded like I would imagine a black hole ripping open would sound, and from then it was the steady ohm so while never hearing a definite t at the end I knew what the phrase was and it was kind of my reaction to the feeling of DMT but when hearing it it was not of my own thought as obvious by it being mixed over the ripping of a black hole and then going into an ohming sound I have never heard, nor would I believe that anyone could replicate in this reality. The ohming in the iiiiiii can go on forever, and I believe was only made hearible to me through relations made to me from my spirit. I know a lot of this may sound nuts, but others have made similar documents of experiences, and the knowing that comes is all from intuitions and emotions which you must be somewhat in tune with.
Other facets:
Sounds: there seemed to be negative sounds, and blips that were part of being out there as well as the bodies reaction to the DMT that changed things sometimes when they occurred.
Sights: I am not sure how much hallucinogenic action I got in visuals eye open or closed, but there was a different glow to the world with my eyes open, and closed I didnt get an astral grid, mandalas, or machine elves as you can see most of what I delved through was based and imaged in reality, but brought to my consciousness in unimaginable ways.
Overall that is my first experience, I probably had about .2g worth. I am fine and happy still, no new problems or after effects, aside from my seeming freedom from the any worry I would normally previously experience in life. Maybe im faith drunk but we will see how it will turn out over time, I will update with any changes.
I hope I didnt leave any thought unfinished here but I am not about to proofread this right now. Hope you enjoyed, and I hope this helps you on your journey.
One Love, and do not fear the unknown or chaos as it is beautiful and perfect!

wow!

full on experience LoveChaos, well described to.

Good work also WispyCat.
I can understand how difficult it can be to focus and channel your awareness during hyperspace.
But you are a inspiration for your openness to it.

Regarding focus (from being overawed) Meditation is a great way to build focal abilities. If you are interested you will learn very quickly. You don't need a teacher. Or a book (or post for that matter...lol)
To save you alot of time though, Heres my experience
There are so many techniques and methods, many involve concentrating rather than relaxing, with or without an internal dialogue.

With daily practise and enough interest anyone can learn to shut down their inner voice and clearly experience themselves without definition, within a few (3-6) dedicated months.
Crystals are used for this reason. To give a sensorial focal point without need for language.

I found my concentration abilities developed in waves. In the first 3 months you will skill up and gain flashes of your coming new skill set... then you will plateau for a few more months as your brian slipstreams your neurons....Don't stop now though cause ....
the next wave with continued practise, you will get the support of your inner will. It's easy then. Once you have your inner selves attention.... awareness becomes outcome. It's easy.

It is about observing rather than forcing.
Try feeling the point of focus (crystal, icon, flame, etc) with your whole body, try to sense it, rather than thinking it or about it.
At the start even 1 pure second is a rush...... nearly as good a an Eccy

After a while when you are skilled. you can stop time altogether....lol

Best wished for your next flight

p.s. i never listen music with words.... anything else for me... I need my own inner ideas to be audible...

Thanks for the input, I will give it a shot. I have followed through with a meditative aid from youtube once before, and achieved an incredible feeling emanating from my third eye. This was the directed focal point, and I wish I still knew the link because it was awesome. However, I have always been skeptical about crystals, I love the ideas that surround their discussions online, but it is very hard for me to believe due to clear scammers. Can you direct me in how I could perhaps find and use them properly, what to look for in the crystal, or toward some other literature/media which helps with this. I may be mixed up with crystals, and magnets, as in the glasses/headdresses that people are claiming to make to open the third eye so any info you have on either of these things would be awesome. Perhaps we need to find another thread, or to make one, but I would like to keep you updated on how the training goes.