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Using Sodium Carbonate to precipitate freebase THH? Options
 
bringeroflight
#1 Posted : 4/25/2011 7:55:05 PM
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swim attempted an innovation in his changa making methods, which failed. So to save the alkaloids (spice/harmalas) from this failed changa, he redissolved them in vinegar (as well as a whole bunch of other plant stuff from other herbs he used in the changa, no doubt), and now he's contemplating the best path to take from here. He was thinking of precipitating the magic from the acetic solution using sodium carbonate, but since he was unable to find any info on the pka of THH, he's unsure if he'll be able to get it back this way and doesn't want to risk losing it. He also considered just evaporating the whole solution using heat to hopefully boil off the acetates, redissolving in acetone, and then adding to another changa.

Any thoughts on the best way to handle this scenario?
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#2 Posted : 4/26/2011 6:16:22 PM
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So what do you guys think? Boil? Or precipitate? Or both??
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#3 Posted : 4/26/2011 6:19:42 PM

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Precipitate with lye or sodium carbonate. Both are used when extracting harmala alkaloids from caapi, so you should be fine.

DMT precipitation from acetic acid solution might work or it might not work, Im not sure. I could only get dmt to precipitate out of fumaric acid solution, not acetic acid, but I only used sodium carb. Some people used lye and said it works.
 
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#4 Posted : 4/26/2011 6:29:18 PM
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Thanks endlessness.. sounds like lye is the best bet here for precipitating.
swim will let you know how it all goes.
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