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#1 Posted : 9/5/2008 1:22:48 PM

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someone once recommended having a plastic tupperware box full of desiccant and some zinc dust at the bottom to kill off any oxygen floating around in the storage container. it is said to be stored best at 3 degrees celcius.

SWIMs question is about the zinc. SWIM went to the pharmacy and asked about pure zinc powder and what forms it could be gotten in. The first one to pop up was zinc oxide. SWIM thought to himself that the oxide will probably not be good for taking on oxygen because it is already oxidized.

SWIM got some Zincsulfate-Heptahydrate.

SWIM would like to know if this is safe to use for spice storage. It has a little orange sticker on it which has dead trees & dead fish on it. So SWIM is a little afraid he has gotten something he can't use for storage. Or is this the right thing?
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#2 Posted : 9/5/2008 1:55:33 PM

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if you are looking to remove oxygen, a glass container would probably work better since tupperwares(most plastics) are pretty permeable to different gasses
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#3 Posted : 9/5/2008 2:54:27 PM

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SWIM has tupperware with a vacuum pump Smile
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#4 Posted : 9/5/2008 2:54:44 PM

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he just needs to know if the zinc is ok or not..
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#5 Posted : 9/5/2008 9:21:27 PM

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cheech wrote:
someone once recommended having a plastic tupperware box full of desiccant and some zinc dust at the bottom to kill off any oxygen floating around in the storage container. it is said to be stored best at 3 degrees celcius.

SWIMs question is about the zinc. SWIM went to the pharmacy and asked about pure zinc powder and what forms it could be gotten in. The first one to pop up was zinc oxide. SWIM thought to himself that the oxide will probably not be good for taking on oxygen because it is already oxidized.

SWIM got some Zincsulfate-Heptahydrate.

SWIM would like to know if this is safe to use for spice storage. It has a little orange sticker on it which has dead trees & dead fish on it. So SWIM is a little afraid he has gotten something he can't use for storage. Or is this the right thing?


That kind will not work. It must be pure zinc that is not bound to any other molecules. This is specifically called “zinc dust”. Look for “zinc dust” on google shopping. There are several places that sell it.

Another thing that works, but not as well, is ascorbic acid (vitamin C). But again it must be pure ascorbic acid, no other form. Zinc dust is best if you can get it.
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#6 Posted : 9/6/2008 5:19:20 AM

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it's all about the drierite

spice vial in vacuo (loosely capped, of course)
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#7 Posted : 9/8/2008 1:30:58 AM
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why store it when you can smoke it?
 
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#8 Posted : 9/10/2008 3:10:50 PM

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because... Pleased
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#9 Posted : 9/10/2008 3:17:10 PM

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cheech wrote:
because...


metaphorically speaking, it's like having a genie in a bottle; you're only granted a finite number of wishes. good luck finding another 'genie' on the street too, unless you can afford to conduct your own magic on a whim.
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#10 Posted : 10/18/2008 9:43:54 PM

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because sometimes a friend just has too much of it lying around from manic midnight extraction procedures.. and since that specific friend has got other things to do besides smoking spice he needs to store it for the right times.. Pleased

not every day is made for the spice.. its only very special days. that friend also doesn't think its good to do it so often.. he rather does it every 3 months or so and then he needs to think about it for a long time until he can face it again. in between that friend learns from either the mushroom or the leaves of salvia divinorum on a 2 week basis.

he has many allies to distribute his time to.
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#11 Posted : 10/19/2008 5:29:10 AM

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I saved this to my computer as i do with most useful information. I believe it was posted by 69ron but if i'm wrong i apoligize. In fact i'm pretty sure it was 69ron

Long Term Storage

Place the DMT inside a small glass container that has a screw on cap with whole drilled into it. Put a good quality flexible glass micro fiber filter paper on top of the container and close the lid so that the filter paper is held firmly in place by the lid. This filter is there to prevent dust from getting inside the container while allowing the oxygen in the container to flow out of the container. In a larger container place a small amount of zinc dust and anhydrous magnesium sulfate just like before. Place your DMT container in the larger container. Close the lid of the larger container using a flexible air tight lid that is freezer safe. Because the DMT is protected by a filter paper, if the larger container is ever accidentally shaken, the DMT will not get contaminated with the powder in the larger container. Also, the filter paper allows the zinc dust to absorb all the oxygen present in the DMT container.

Manufacturers and sellers (such as Sigma-Aldrich) recommended that 5-MeO-DMT be stored at 2 - 8 C and NOT KEPT FROZEN. So this probably applies to DMT as well. Actually this applies to the majority of drugs. It might be a good idea to buy a small freezer adjusted to 5 C just for this purpose.

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#12 Posted : 10/20/2008 2:29:17 PM

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Wow, that kinda blows everything that I know about trytamine storage away (not that I really know that much about it).

Can someone explain why it is not a good idea to store it in subfreezing temperature?

If it is a choice between fridge and freezer should I opt out for the fridge???
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#13 Posted : 10/20/2008 4:59:46 PM

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Personally I think that freezing is absolutely fine. SWIM's FOAF never had a trouble with long term storage of spice in the freezer. And I do not see the point of 2-8 C. As long as the spice is totally dry then nothing like for instance the crystal lattice of ice can actually harm it

I can see the point however if the spice is in salt form, dissolved in water and one's freezing it. The ice crystal lattice can damage molecules both upon its formation (freezing) and its decomposition (thawing). Repeated freeze-thawing of aqueous solutions of biological molecules is widely accepted to contribute to their long-term degradation. But freebased dry spice has nothing to fear from freezing temperatures.

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