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Limo/lime/cactus mix has turned to plastic pudding! Advice needed! Options
 
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#1 Posted : 10/15/2010 5:41:07 AM

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SWIM is working on the third pull of Ron's limo tek and used twice as much lime as an experiment this time which has turned out to be a bad idea!

The 300ml limo in both jars is completely trapped in the sludge and it has turned into a plastic mass of green pudding! The limo has completely dissapeared in one jar. SWIM just added an extra 300ml of limo to both jars but this stuff just won't break down and SWIM suspects the extra lime is causing the problem.

What can SWIM do to break this stuff down and release the trapped limo? Heat?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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#2 Posted : 10/15/2010 9:06:44 AM

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You could try mixing in some sodium carbonate (baking soda in the oven at 400f for 2 hours makes soda carb). This releases the limo ime.
 
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#3 Posted : 10/15/2010 1:13:22 PM

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Thanks, Ouro.

How much sodium carbonate do you recommend adding? 100-200 grams?

Also, would heating the jars in a pan with hot water help in releasing the limo?
 
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#4 Posted : 10/15/2010 6:04:02 PM

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I'd just mix it in little by little with a spoon over a few minutes until you get the desired result, maybe half a teaspoon at a time. I typically dont measure things. I dont have experience getting the limo out from lime sludge with heat or any other way, but I think the soda carb should do the trick. The soda carb is converting the lime to lye and precips limestone particles, which ime releases the limo.

edit: i realized that teaspoon is an actual measurement and I really dont know how big it is. I meant it literally in my post, as in a spoon I use to stir my tea. I'd start with one of those full and then add in another half every little while while stirring until the sludge cakes up and the limo comes out.
 
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#5 Posted : 10/16/2010 12:36:57 AM

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Excellent! Just put a ton of baking soda in the oven at 400 degrees and am looking forward to seeing how this works.

Here's a pic of the green blob that stole my 300ml limo with the new 300ml added sitting on top. Let's see how much can be recovered after adding the sodium carbonate.

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#6 Posted : 10/16/2010 3:47:51 AM

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This tek works extremely well! Thanks, Ouro!

Was able to recover 500 ml limo from one jar and 400ml from the other. 6-7 teaspoons of sodium carbonate was added to each jar and stirred. Once mixed in the added sodium carbonate started releasing the limo almost immediately.

However, it didn't exactly break down the sludge to granules as it's still a soupy mix but I imagine the lye will continue breaking it down during the 4th and final pull.

I love this stuff! Mad kitchen chemistry!Twisted Evil
 
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#7 Posted : 10/16/2010 4:36:29 AM

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Nice one! I've been recommending this treatment for a while now, but I think you are the first to actually post back and verify that it works Smile. I may have gotten granules because I had a higher proportion of lime and soda carb to cactus and water... certainly the details haven't all been worked out, but it will release limo, I'm sure of that.
 
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#8 Posted : 10/16/2010 5:07:40 AM

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You da man, Ouro! Salting the limo now and just dropped 100mg each with my wife with 3 datura seeds for a light adventure on a Friday night!

Thanks again!
 
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#9 Posted : 10/16/2010 9:29:56 AM

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the secret to do good things is whatch what are you doing Wink
i don't like follow recipes at word,there're many epic fail recipes on web,people writing recipes they never tried,so my advice is look for a misture light, airy, and drainy just it
your mixture musn't be sticky when moist
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#10 Posted : 10/16/2010 9:03:38 PM

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Yes, twice as much lime was added initially ss an experiment which didn't help the situation. Will stick to 25grams per 100gr material next time. SWIM has also been having good luck salting out clean mescaline using Futura's recipe of 9-10 drops of 10% HCL to 200ml water and using it at a ratio of 200ml per 600ml limo. Sodium carbonate will be added to final pulls for all subsequent extractions.

SWIM just woke up after an amazing dawnbreaker night after taking 200mg total with 5 datura seeds. Deeply beautiful! Wife saw shamans and created spontaneous art by throwing around colored rice in her mind! Smile
 
 
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