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#1 Posted : 5/27/2010 12:03:17 AM

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SWIM is intrigued to try changa as he has not yet broken through and would like to experience the wonders in the most profound way

SWIM's things to acquire:

1. 100g MHRB from celestial-source
2. shredded white vine 100g from maya-ethnobotanicals
3. blue lotus flower 10g from maya-ethnobotanicals

should yield about 1g DMT
60% caapi and 40% blue lotus
1:1 DMT with mixture

any tips, help, suggestions for a first time breakthrough with this combination for SWIM who has had 10 sub-breakthroughs? He really wants to do it right this time. Very happy
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#2 Posted : 5/27/2010 12:07:08 AM

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I highly recommend using caapi leaves for smoking and nothing else Smile

I actually find it harder to get out of body with changa if that's what you mean by breakthrough. But I think it rules over DMT for a classic visionary experience.
 
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#3 Posted : 5/27/2010 12:13:16 AM

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okay I saw celestial source had cielo leaves? I think I'd actually prefer the leaves for more smoking ability
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#4 Posted : 5/27/2010 12:32:47 AM

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Yeah, the leaves are a lovely smoke.
 
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#5 Posted : 5/27/2010 5:09:10 AM

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leaves.... but any harmala will do in a pinch... whats most important is that you get the voice.......................
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#6 Posted : 6/5/2010 1:48:33 AM

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I just placed orders for:
1 oz blue lotus and 1 oz caapi leaves from Vegetalista Botanicals.
100gm powdered MHRB from Celestial Source.

Im so excited about finally receiving the products in order to make changa. I cannot wait for what journey's await me. Ill keep updated. Very happy
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#7 Posted : 7/11/2010 12:52:32 PM
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Hi i also want to try this blend of changa for my first attempt. just wanted someone to verify my method before i order/partake in making it.

i want to use pure acetone for the making of the changa. pure 98% acetone http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Na...&hash=item20ab760c60 is this ok?

also my leaf will be ordered from http://www.banisteriopsiscaapi.co.uk/leaves.php is this the correct leaf i will need?

my lotus would be purchased from http://www.alternativemi...gre9880b5lovfa0c72um6s83 is this correct?

how much of each would i need to 1:1 with a gram of DMT is it literally 1gram of leaf to 1gram of DMT? these maybe stoopid questions but i thought i would ask instead of make a mistake in my order or process also i didnt want to start a new thread as this one seemed adequate. thanks any input welcome and please check the products i will be ordering. Very happy HydroBlowBack
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#8 Posted : 7/11/2010 1:20:54 PM

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Those guys have 99.5% acetone. Check the MSDS for what else is in there. If its traces of water then it's fine to use.

The leaf(caapi and lotus) you plan to order are perfect. Check this thread https://dmt-nexus.me/for....aspx?g=posts&t=3539 and in general the whole changa sub-forum for all info.

1:1 all the way, 1gram herb to 1gram DMTSmile
 
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#9 Posted : 7/11/2010 1:37:39 PM
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Excellent reply there mate thanks alot just wanted to verify everything before ordering. i will be using the dmt hand book for refrence to make my changa Smile im unsure of how to find out what the .5% is in the acetone, should i post a message on ebay asking the seller? thanks alot for the link as well mate Smile


Also would it make any diffrence if i used Isopropyl Alcohol as they sell 99.9% pure?

this is what the Isopropyl Alcohol contains :-
Product Specification:


Minimum Assay: 99.9% min


Water: 0.1% max

Acidity as CH3COOH: 0.001 max

Density: 0.784 – 0-786

Litres per Metric Tonne: 1274

Appearance: Clear and free from suspended matter

Colour: 10 max

Initial Boiling Point: 82.0

Final Boiling Point: 83.0

Refractive Index ND 20: 1.377

Non Volatile Matter: <1

would this be a ok alternative to the acetone?

Thanks



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#10 Posted : 7/11/2010 2:29:28 PM

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Ye the IPA is fine to use.

To the OP, sorry for derailing this thread. HydroBlowBack, check through the threads, sooo much info is available.
 
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#11 Posted : 7/11/2010 2:39:26 PM
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sorry have been researching for a wile now and couldnt find answers thought it better to ask in a open thread than to create a new one i can delete my posts if too off topic thanks for your help tho Pleased
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#12 Posted : 7/11/2010 2:44:36 PM

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no no, no need to go deleting postsSmile

And no worries about starting a new thread that is going to need a few answers, better that than hijack other threadsSmile
 
 
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