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#1 Posted : 5/20/2010 7:49:34 AM

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Hi. I had an idea on how to easily separate nn dmt from 5meo. First exhaust the mimosa with naphtha, and you'll get your white powder. When you can get no more from the naphtha, use xylene to get the jungle toad alkaloids. Also wondering if there's any way to get jungle spice to a powder consistency. From what I've seen, people seem to get a sticky liquid of jungle spice. Would rather have it dry.

So has anyone ever tried this method? Thanks.
 

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#2 Posted : 5/20/2010 2:11:35 PM

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Yep. This is a good method to pulling jungle spice, its mentioned here: Dark DMT - The Other Alkaloid.

Burnt has also done quite a bit of research on it here: Burnt's Report


and as far as everyone knows, its impossible to powder this gooey hygroscopic liquid Razz

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fnog9 wrote:
Hi. I had an idea on how to easily separate nn dmt from 5meo. First exhaust the mimosa with naphtha, and you'll get your white powder. When you can get no more from the naphtha, use xylene to get the jungle toad alkaloids.

Well, mimosa hostilis does not have any 5-meo. And even if it did, 5-meo is soluble in naphtha.

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#4 Posted : 5/21/2010 7:39:00 AM

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Infundibulum wrote:
fnog9 wrote:
Hi. I had an idea on how to easily separate nn dmt from 5meo. First exhaust the mimosa with naphtha, and you'll get your white powder. When you can get no more from the naphtha, use xylene to get the jungle toad alkaloids.

Well, mimosa hostilis does not have any 5-meo. And even if it did, 5-meo is soluble in naphtha.


It doesn't? And I thought I knew the types of dmt. I thought there were only two types,
N,N-DMT being the white kind, the one people seem to prefer and more popular to smoke
5-MeO-DMT (bufotenin) also found in mimosa, and in yopo seeds and the Bufo Alvarius toad.

I've heard lots of people talk about getting jungle spice from mimosa, I'm sure of it.
 
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#5 Posted : 5/21/2010 2:19:13 PM

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Bufotenine is not 5-MeO-DMT. 5-HO-DMT is bufotenine.

And no, there is no 5-MeO-DMT or bufotenine in mimosa hostilis. The "jungle spice" is something else entirely... the last analyses I saw indicates that it's mostly DMT (no matter how much effort is made to separate the pure DMT out) mixed with a type of beta-carboline, possibly a degradation product of yuremamine that occurs during the extraction process (yuremamine being a fragile chemical that doesn't tolerate the harsh extraction conditions).
 
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#6 Posted : 5/21/2010 6:42:48 PM

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Entropymancer wrote:
Bufotenine is not 5-MeO-DMT. 5-HO-DMT is bufotenine.

And no, there is no 5-MeO-DMT or bufotenine in mimosa hostilis. The "jungle spice" is something else entirely... the last analyses I saw indicates that it's mostly DMT (no matter how much effort is made to separate the pure DMT out) mixed with a type of beta-carboline, possibly a degradation product of yuremamine that occurs during the extraction process (yuremamine being a fragile chemical that doesn't tolerate the harsh extraction conditions).


Thanks for the clarification, I'll have to save that for future reference.
 
 
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