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The Secret-Alchemist Club Anti-Nausea Shot Options
 
igorcarajo
#21 Posted : 9/28/2021 4:58:51 AM
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Hahahaha, no you're not a wuss at all. It's got a kick. Especially once you add the essential oils (make sure you're using ones that are safe to ingest).

I drank a shot 15 minutes prior to a changa journey today. I eyeball it, so it's probably not a full shot. But just kick it back, so by the time you're thinking about how hot it is, it's already in your stomach.

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Thanks for the response. I just looked at the labels of the few essential oils I have and they say โ€œnot for internal useโ€ Mad . Are there special essential oils that are labeled as safe for ingestion? Where does one find those?
 

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#22 Posted : 9/28/2021 12:13:24 PM

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igorcarajo wrote:
Voidmatrix wrote:
Hahahaha, no you're not a wuss at all. It's got a kick. Especially once you add the essential oils (make sure you're using ones that are safe to ingest).

I drank a shot 15 minutes prior to a changa journey today. I eyeball it, so it's probably not a full shot. But just kick it back, so by the time you're thinking about how hot it is, it's already in your stomach.

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Thanks for the response. I just looked at the labels of the few essential oils I have and they say โ€œnot for internal useโ€ Mad . Are there special essential oils that are labeled as safe for ingestion? Where does one find those?


I use doterra oils. They're wonderful

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#23 Posted : 9/28/2021 7:58:05 PM
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Most essential oils will say not to consume them. Doesn't mean they're not safe to ingest, so long as the oils you have are 100% pure and therapeutic grade, they can be ingested. Some oils are not safe to ingest though, like Tea Tree Oil for example. But i've regularly consumed Citrus oils as well as individual terpenes and some other essential oils for like the past 6 years, no problems noticed. I just put the drops of oil into a capsule and take it, i don't dilute it or anything.
 
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#24 Posted : 9/28/2021 8:07:44 PM

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ShamensStamen wrote:
Most essential oils will say not to consume them. Doesn't mean they're not safe to ingest, so long as the oils you have are 100% pure and therapeutic grade, they can be ingested. Some oils are not safe to ingest though, like Tea Tree Oil for example. But i've regularly consumed Citrus oils as well as individual terpenes and some other essential oils for like the past 6 years, no problems noticed. I just put the drops of oil into a capsule and take it, i don't dilute it or anything.


If I'm not mistaken, safety regarding ingesting essential oils centers around method of extraction and quality of starting material, so I agree that many are safe to ingest. Doterra makes their's for ingestion.

Out my own curiosity, what brand are the ones you ingest ShamensStamen?

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#25 Posted : 9/28/2021 10:37:20 PM
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Well there's a brand on ebay called Rewarding Essentials, and i've been buying them for a good few years, so that's mainly the brand i stick to. For the most part though, i don't particularly care about brand so long as product and seller reviews are good and the quality of the oil is good and pure. I have bought some Doterra oils before though, as well as a brand called Plant Therapy iirc. Mainly now a days though i tend to stick to isolated terpenes but i do indeed love full spectrum Lemon EO for example.
 
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#26 Posted : 9/29/2021 1:18:50 AM

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FWIW I used "now" brand essential oils (Lavender, Peppermint, Clove and Lemon). They worked well and I suffered no ill effects.

Also, I've used this recipe with my mescaline the last three times and have had some powerful experiences. Others have dosed a similar or a bit less of the same full spec mescaline acetate, but without the anti-nausea shots and all described much milder experiences. I'm wondering if these shots might potentiate mescaline.

Clove Oil (Eugenol):
https://www.tapatalk.com...-inhibitor-t3879799.html

Lavender Oil:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih...pmc/articles/PMC5437114/


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#27 Posted : 11/29/2021 9:00:21 AM

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FWIW I used "now" brand essential oils (Lavender, Peppermint, Clove and Lemon). They worked well and I suffered no ill effects.

Also, I've used this recipe with my mescaline the last three times and have had some powerful experiences. Others have dosed a similar or a bit less of the same full spec mescaline acetate, but without the anti-nausea shots and all described much milder experiences. I'm wondering if these shots might potentiate mescaline.

Clove Oil (Eugenol):
https://www.tapatalk.com...-inhibitor-t3879799.html

Lavender Oil:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih...pmc/articles/PMC5437114/



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#28 Posted : 1/24/2023 11:16:16 PM
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Why take this immediately after dosing, wouldn't it make more sense to take it half an hour before or so, then you can be sure its latched onto receptors before your dose?

Wolfnippletip wrote:
FWIW I used "now" brand essential oils (Lavender, Peppermint, Clove and Lemon). They worked well and I suffered no ill effects.

Also, I've used this recipe with my mescaline the last three times and have had some powerful experiences. Others have dosed a similar or a bit less of the same full spec mescaline acetate, but without the anti-nausea shots and all described much milder experiences. I'm wondering if these shots might potentiate mescaline.

Clove Oil (Eugenol):
https://www.tapatalk.com...-inhibitor-t3879799.html

Lavender Oil:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih...pmc/articles/PMC5437114/



A quick look over the Eugenol wiki claims that it inhibits MAO-A/B. That'd explain it potentiating them.
 
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#29 Posted : 1/25/2023 5:48:13 PM

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Why take this immediately after dosing, wouldn't it make more sense to take it half an hour before or so, then you can be sure its latched onto receptors before your dose?


That's just the way I've always done it. With cactus, maybe such that it maximizes the effective anti-nausea duration through the 3-4 hour come up... It also clears the syrup taste out pretty well too as a chaser. With mushroom tea, i like the idea of having the ginger juice and oils BLENDED IN to to the tea, so its there with it as its absorbed.

I've simply never tried it 20-40min BEFORE dosing, but I agree, that is a good idea, and makes sense Smile

Perhaps next time I'll give this approach a try! Will be interesting to see how it affects both cactus syrup and/or mushroom tea. Even if doing this, I would still mix a lil ginger juice in WITH the mushroom tea though, just for good measure, and so its all there together during digestion.

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#30 Posted : 1/26/2023 8:36:45 AM

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#31 Posted : 1/29/2023 2:45:26 PM
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CosmicLion wrote:
m3dt3ch wrote:
Why take this immediately after dosing, wouldn't it make more sense to take it half an hour before or so, then you can be sure its latched onto receptors before your dose?


That's just the way I've always done it. With cactus, maybe such that it maximizes the effective anti-nausea duration through the 3-4 hour come up... It also clears the syrup taste out pretty well too as a chaser. With mushroom tea, i like the idea of having the ginger juice and oils BLENDED IN to to the tea, so its there with it as its absorbed.

I've simply never tried it 20-40min BEFORE dosing, but I agree, that is a good idea, and makes sense Smile

Perhaps next time I'll give this approach a try! Will be interesting to see how it affects both cactus syrup and/or mushroom tea. Even if doing this, I would still mix a lil ginger juice in WITH the mushroom tea though, just for good measure, and so its all there together during digestion.

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Tried this, took it before a dose of San Pedro syrup. I just grated store-bought ginger root and squeezed the juice into a shot-glass with my hands, then added doTERRA lemon, clove and peppermint. Was expecting it to be really gross, nauseating and strong to take itself but actually it was quite tasty and didn't make me feel sick at all. Unlike ginger and lemon teabags I tried before, which made me nearly vomit in the mug, and ginger extract tablets that didn't really work. I took this shot about half an hour before consuming enough syrup to give me nausea, and I ended up completely unable to tell I had taken it at all. Literally zero nausea. Really happy I've finally found this info, thank you.

UPDATE:
Tried it again, this time immediately following dosing. Before definitely worked better, the essential oils hitting my throat whilst already feeling sick from dosing made things far worse and I didn't feel like it took any action in preventing nausea. Definitely getting this down 20 minutes before and letting it settle has been better for achieving its desired effect, at least in my experience.
 
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