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#3481 Posted : 6/25/2022 7:07:27 AM

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It's also probably worth noting that if you plan on doing multiple pulls you don't have to be precise and pull every ml of naphtha available, I personally use 50ml of naphtha but only manage to pull 40-45ml when seperating, it's not important what you miss will be available next pull and after 3 or so pulls that last bit of 5-10ml of naphtha is probably hardly worth salvaging.
 

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#3482 Posted : 6/25/2022 11:00:16 AM
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so I will add 50ml hot/warm naphtha and no water(?) to wash the crystals. How long do I need to freeze it after that, again 48 hours?
 
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#3483 Posted : 6/25/2022 1:31:25 PM

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Honestly have no experience but a surely there are teks if you look or just search recrystallisation.
If I had to guess you just wanna dissolve it in naphtha and pass sodium carbonate water through it several times seperating after each time then freezing again afterwards, this is just a guess though. Seriously even do a search on Google something is bound to come up
 
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#3484 Posted : 6/25/2022 1:37:35 PM

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Go on google search cybs salt Tek word for word click on the first link and scroll down to
re-x step (couldn't download the Tek through Nexus but through google it took me straight to the Tek).
 
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#3485 Posted : 6/26/2022 10:41:05 PM

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Thank You very much,
I'll try not to poison myself.
You forgot to mention the quantity for hot naphtha for recrystallization (I used 100g of root bark).
Wouldn't a syringe be even better than a pipette?
And I also do not use water for recrystallization, correct?


Apologies, 20ml of solvent should be sufficient.

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#3486 Posted : 6/27/2022 12:35:43 AM
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thanks
So I got 0,14g crystals now, pretty bad, eh?

I divided them into five pieces do this looks like a correct serving size?

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#3487 Posted : 6/27/2022 12:42:33 AM

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So I got 0,14g crystals now, pretty bad, eh?

I divided them into five pieces do this looks like a correct serving size?



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#3488 Posted : 6/27/2022 10:34:26 AM

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Using stainless steel tray for evaping instead of glass? is it ok or can it mess things up? I am asking this because I am getting little to no yield from my extractions.

Also about freeze precipitating in a 500ml beaker instead of a pyrex dish, will it affect the crystallization speed, yield?
 
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#3489 Posted : 6/27/2022 12:02:05 PM

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Using stainless steel tray for evaping instead of glass? is it ok or can it mess things up? I am asking this because I am getting little to no yield from my extractions.

Also about freeze precipitating in a 500ml beaker instead of a pyrex dish, will it affect the crystallization speed, yield?


Shouldn't change things up too much. What kind of water are you using in your extraction?

The smaller the volume the better it will precipitate. It'll probably be easier to scrape out of a dish.

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#3490 Posted : 6/27/2022 1:55:02 PM

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What kind of water are you using in your extraction?

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Well its labelled distilled water, guess i have to get some branded distilled water then.
 
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#3491 Posted : 6/30/2022 6:15:00 PM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
What kind of water are you using in your extraction?

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Well its labelled distilled water, guess i have to get some branded distilled water then.


It could be a different variable that's hindering your yields, but I'd need more information.

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#3492 Posted : 7/4/2022 9:00:28 AM

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More Of a question about harvesting than extracting but does anyone know how long after rain you should wait before picking phyllodes? Also is late summer really the best time to harvest trees?
 
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#3493 Posted : 7/26/2022 11:05:04 PM

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I am curious about yield ratios. If say you had 350 g of useful stuff, what is the yield of stuff you will end up with. I am new to this and haven't yet experienced what I know I need desperately. Any help is appreciated , I have Lye and Naphtha. Thank you.
 
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#3494 Posted : 7/27/2022 12:33:55 AM

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Bruce B. wrote:
I am curious about yield ratios. If say you had 350 g of useful stuff, what is the yield of stuff you will end up with. I am new to this and haven't yet experienced what I know I need desperately. Any help is appreciated , I have Lye and Naphtha. Thank you.


With MHRB, generally 1%-2% yield. With ACRB, closer to 1% yield.

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#3495 Posted : 8/6/2022 6:30:28 PM
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Hello, I am currently preforming my first extraction following Q21Q21’s vinegar/lime a/b tek : 2 (the fluffy white fun fest).
Some background on the extraction, I am using a small amount of MHRB (30g) with calcium hydroxide and naphtha.
I am currently in the middle of my first naphtha pull. My question is what is the stuff rising into the solvent? Is this a sign of emulsion? What is the second liquid layer under the solvent (it is a deep reddish brown color)? Is there any point in collecting that liquid? I’ve been giving it a hot/warm water bath for about an hour now and was going to continue for another hour before attempting to remove the naphtha into my freeze precipitation container (is this the right thing to do?) Any information given will be extremely helpful as I am just a humble novice. I’ve been browsing the forum for the past few days and I believe this is genuine magic glad to join the community! (Is there any way I can upload pictures I’ve taken to help you help me?)
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#3496 Posted : 8/6/2022 6:47:11 PM

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Deep reddish brown liquid, i'd say that is probably water from the bark - your paste may be a bit too wet. I wouldn't keep that liquid, i'd add it back to the bark.
Or if it's not liquid, it might be actual dark particles and your paste might be too dry.
In both cases, you don't want them in your naphtha Smile if it's bark particles, a coffee filter should catch them.

Yes the next step is to cleanly separate that naphtha and move on to freeze precipitation. You want zero drops of watery liquid in there.

Good luck, and feel free to ask more questions here, in chat, or in the official extraction help thread.
 
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#3497 Posted : 8/6/2022 6:56:02 PM

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Hello, I am currently preforming my first extraction following Q21Q21’s vinegar/lime a/b tek : 2 (the fluffy white fun fest).
Some background on the extraction, I am using a small amount of MHRB (30g) with calcium hydroxide and naphtha.
I am currently in the middle of my first naphtha pull. My question is what is the stuff rising into the solvent? Is this a sign of emulsion? What is the second liquid layer under the solvent (it is a deep reddish brown color)? Is there any point in collecting that liquid? I’ve been giving it a hot/warm water bath for about an hour now and was going to continue for another hour before attempting to remove the naphtha into my freeze precipitation container (is this the right thing to do?) Any information given will be extremely helpful as I am just a humble novice. I’ve been browsing the forum for the past few days and I believe this is genuine magic glad to join the community! (Is there any way I can upload pictures I’ve taken to help you help me?)


To piggyback off of HT, ONLY retrieve the top solvent layer. Everything else stays. You may also want to evaporate down your solvent in a well ventilated area before placing in the freezer for freeze precipitation.

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#3498 Posted : 8/6/2022 7:16:15 PM
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Thank you both for the extremely timely reply
Question about the evaporation process : what would be the best method? Is a heat lamp a good choice? How long should I let it evaporate for? And how much will it reduce the solvent by? Also could I preform the evaporation in the same container that I will freeze precipitate from? (Approx 30ml of solvent was used)
 
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#3499 Posted : 8/6/2022 7:26:24 PM

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Jugginlow wrote:
Thank you both for the extremely timely reply
Question about the evaporation process : what would be the best method? Is a heat lamp a good choice? How long should I let it evaporate for? And how much will it reduce the solvent by? Also could I preform the evaporation in the same container that I will freeze precipitate from? (Approx 30ml of solvent was used)


Yes, you can perform the evaporation in the same container. I recommend using a warm/hot water bath.

Whether (and how much) you should reduce, you can find out by blowing at the naphtha. When you see faint clouding where you blow, you are at a good saturation.
 
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