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Markkennon24
#3441 Posted : 5/8/2022 8:46:33 PM
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My bad, I didn’t realize it was a watched material. Won’t happen again. I followed the instructions word for word. Every attempt that I e made with this bark hasn’t turned out. Hope this isn’t against sourcing rules but one would think it’s the same material as what was used in my 2 successful attempts. I’m stumped. Oh, and then to top things off I was grinding proper on a tuna steak last night and the ground pepper blew all in the pulls. The steps I didn’t completed were from covering it in airtight plastic on. Sorry, wish I knew more scientific terms to describe it. I get vape cartridges all the time but I wanna do the real deal and be able to share the experience.
 

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#3442 Posted : 5/8/2022 9:01:46 PM

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My bad, I didn’t realize it was a watched material. Won’t happen again. I followed the instructions word for word. Every attempt that I e made with this bark hasn’t turned out. Hope this isn’t against sourcing rules but one would think it’s the same material as what was used in my 2 successful attempts. I’m stumped. Oh, and then to top things off I was grinding proper on a tuna steak last night and the ground pepper blew all in the pulls. The steps I didn’t completed were from covering it in airtight plastic on. Sorry, wish I knew more scientific terms to describe it. I get vape cartridges all the time but I wanna do the real deal and be able to share the experience.


Don't stress too much about it Smile it happens, and we've recently tightened up on the rules around it.

You can talk about the bark, and that it should be the same bark, from a different batch. Most of us will know what you mean. Just don't mention vendors and talking to them, etc. Just keep it strictly about the bark.

How much lye did you use?

You re-x to get rid of the pepper.

Can you expand more on the steps you didn't complete?

And no worries. It's a learning process. I mean, shoot, I'm more of a philosopher than chemistrySmile but we got you and will help the best we can.

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#3443 Posted : 5/10/2022 3:33:12 PM
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I have a question about NaOH. Can I also use NaOH to extract DMT that is not in powdered form like this?
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#3444 Posted : 5/10/2022 3:44:54 PM

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SultanGuenther420 wrote:
I have a question about NaOH. Can I also use NaOH to extract DMT that is not in powdered form like this?
https://imgur.com/qhqf6y3
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#3445 Posted : 5/10/2022 4:03:42 PM
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It worked! Got almost 0.5 grams from the first pullThumbs up
 
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#3446 Posted : 5/10/2022 7:59:07 PM

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Weetikniet87 wrote:
It worked! Got almost 0.5 grams from the first pullThumbs up

What did you pull with, and how much bark did you use? Was this with freeze precipitation?




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#3447 Posted : 5/11/2022 10:35:10 PM
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I used 100 grams of mimosa hostilis. My solvend was wasbenzine, i have no idee wat the name is in other countrys. It is simulair like zippo lighter fuel. Still gonna do some pulls from the mix. And yes from the frezer.
 
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#3448 Posted : 5/13/2022 12:21:40 AM

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I used 100 grams of mimosa hostilis. My solvend was wasbenzine, i have no idee wat the name is in other countrys. It is simulair like zippo lighter fuel. Still gonna do some pulls from the mix. And yes from the frezer.

That's a good enough choice for a clean (and cleaning!) naphtha. Glad to hear of your success - how have the next pulls been?




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#3449 Posted : 5/13/2022 10:29:25 AM

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Hi all good people!
I'm running an A/B extraction with 100g MHRB, all steps was ok until the first hexane pull after basify step. I got carried away and I stirred the two phases a little too much, now I find myself with a bad emulsion for a couple of days that shows no sign of resolving itself even with hot bath. any suggestions?
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#3450 Posted : 5/13/2022 1:50:45 PM

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Hi all good people!
I'm running an A/B extraction with 100g MHRB, all steps was ok until the first hexane pull after basify step. I got carried away and I stirred the two phases a little too much, now I find myself with a bad emulsion for a couple of days that shows no sign of resolving itself even with hot bath. any suggestions?


Try heating it longer, mixing it occasionally.

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#3451 Posted : 5/14/2022 3:31:19 AM

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Try back salting or better yet add excess lye until it resolves itself. Add enough lye should fix it quick.

As voidmatrix mentioned heat should help, hot water bath it and or running hot water.
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#3452 Posted : 5/15/2022 11:43:52 AM

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#3453 Posted : 5/15/2022 5:39:22 PM
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The second pull was about 0.2 and the next pulls were not even worth trying. I gonna do a new mhrb mix tommorow. With the same sokvend. Perhapse the qaulity of the bark is not that great. I0 have about 1 grams total from 100gram mh.I am gonna try to fix some hetpane. But i dont know if it is allowd to have/order in ny country.
 
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#3454 Posted : 5/16/2022 7:15:49 PM

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Thanks all for the tips, tomorrow after work I try higher temp if still don't work grind up some more lye!
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#3455 Posted : 5/16/2022 9:29:57 PM

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Protonix wrote:
Thanks all for the tips, tomorrow after work I try higher temp if still don't work grind up some more lye!

Grind up lye? Why would you want to do that? It's very soluble in water, to the point of being deliquescent in air. While it's liquefying from atmospheric moisture it is also absorbing carbon dioxide which reduces its efficacy as a base.




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#3456 Posted : 5/17/2022 9:40:03 PM

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Protonix wrote:
Thanks all for the tips, tomorrow after work I try higher temp if still don't work grind up some more lye!

Grind up lye? Why would you want to do that? It's very soluble in water, to the point of being deliquescent in air. While it's liquefying from atmospheric moisture it is also absorbing carbon dioxide which reduces its efficacy as a base.


Well I ground it for better dosing when I prepare pH10 solution, and of course for my complete ignorance to the fact that absorbing carbon dioxide reduce it's efficiency so thank you for the explanation! =)
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#3457 Posted : 5/17/2022 10:14:42 PM

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Protonix wrote:
Thanks all for the tips, tomorrow after work I try higher temp if still don't work grind up some more lye!

Grind up lye? Why would you want to do that? It's very soluble in water, to the point of being deliquescent in air. While it's liquefying from atmospheric moisture it is also absorbing carbon dioxide which reduces its efficacy as a base.


Well I ground it for better dosing when I prepare pH10 solution, and of course for my complete ignorance to the fact that absorbing carbon dioxide reduce it's efficiency so thank you for the explanation! =)

You can always dilute your solution if it's too strong. Alternatively, get close to the required amount using the coarse material and only grind a small bit for the fine adjustment.

NaOH is sold in prill/pearl form precisely to minimise the hygroscopicity and CO2 absorption.




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#3458 Posted : 5/20/2022 5:51:04 AM

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Ok, I update you on the situation, the prolonged hot baths have not had much effect, there has been an increase in the clear layer of hexane but not a striking one. To be honest, I don't like adding more lye to the emulsion to make it separate, so I did a little experimenting tonight.
First I separated the aqueous phase from the emulsion / clear solvent. Then I split the mess into three 50mL Falcon and repeated the process 2 more times with new 100mL of hexane. In total there are 9 Falcons of 50mL full of a foamy structures and some clear hexane.
I centrifuged the Falcons for half an hour in a centrifuge at 4000g at 15 ° C and the phases succesfully separated. So I recovered the solvent of the three pulls with a turkey baster into the crystallization becker.

In 50mL of emulsion there was 4-5mL of acqueous solution, about 0,2 to 1mL of a tenacious foam like emulsion residue and 44-45mL of clear Hexane.
At the end of the process I have a volume of hexane of about 290mL on the initial 300.

Today I start reducing the volume of hexane and crystallization in the freezer and will update you on the results.
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#3459 Posted : 5/20/2022 10:22:33 AM

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I don't like adding more lye to the emulsion to make it separate


Why?
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