Loveall wrote:some one wrote:I see, good points. Well, great to hear that citric works.
As for dmt-fumerate, there is only one thing to do: to try it out.
I will give it a go when I have the chance and share results.
If fumerate works we can use FASA to create a smokeable product.
Great, looking forward to your results 🙂
Wauw and the results are in thanks to Ruffles
Excellent work, happy to finally find out that vaping DMT fumerate actually works!
The mellowy feeling sound familiar when I tried to
nebulize it (which only gave weak effects).
Tip: you can convert freebase DMT to DMT fumerate using FASA:
Quote:Step 1 - dissolve 1g freebase DMT in 10ml anhydrous acetone
Step 2 - filter with a small bit of cotton in a funnel, discard dirty cotton wick
Step 3 - add 600mg Fumaric acid to 100ml anhydrous acetone (FASA) and make sure all dissolves
Step 4 - add 50ml FASA to the DMT Acetone solution, wait for the clouding to settle
Step 5 - add additional FASA dropwise until no more clouding forms
Step 6 - separate the solids (DMT-Fumerate) by decanting, discard all liquid
Step 7 - wash the DMT-Fumerate with fresh anhydrous acetone (dissolves excess Fumaric acid)
Step 8 - filter the DMT-Fumerate and dry at room temperature
Doing FASA on freebase DMT will clean it from remaining plant oils etc. These are left dissolved in the acetone which gets discarded. If the DMT is more pure, it means that the ejuice could be less viscous, which could result in better inhalations and less chance of blocked wicks. But as Loveall mentions, adding acid to ejuice + fb is also fine. The easiest is a FASA extraction from the get-go.
Quote:Ended up vaping for 6 hours or so. It was amazing. 171 hits to trough most of the 1g.
I simply enjoy being in the DMT space and gently vape every few minutes to swim in there.
I have yet to try this out, but it sounds like a great way to potentiate multiple lower doses for an extended period for time!
As for ratios..
I think I will try 50:50 or 60:40 VG/PG instead of 70:30. Less VG = less thick liquid = more air flow = more efficient / effective vaping. But more PG will make the ejuice harsher / more throat hit. 33% DMT per weight as Loveall mentions sounds good. I'd go 1/4 min and 1/3 max. Make sure to have sufficient PG to dissolve it in. Ps. For DTL (direct to lung) sub ohm vaping it is recommended to use at least 50% VG in the VG/PG ratio (up to 70%) and keep the air holes fully open.
The final part of this experiment is for someone to try a full dose
some = one | here = some | there = one