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#1 Posted : 8/8/2021 8:52:55 AM

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What’s the proper technique to smoking this stuff Bong Joint Pipe?
Long holds? Short ones? How many? XD just curious what everyone style is
 

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#2 Posted : 8/8/2021 1:56:29 PM

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My experienced with it have been few but it's always been via bong with torch lighter and then holding the hit for as long as I can think to hold it, usually one hit does the trick for me with 10x

Has been about 7 years since the last one though and that last one largely put me off, I think if I were to give it another go, I'll probably go the quidding route, maybe with some harmalas in the mix.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/8/2021 10:52:51 PM

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#4 Posted : 8/9/2021 2:20:40 AM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
null24 wrote:
You are kidding right?


Laughing this is the second time one of your posts has cracked me up today null24 Big grin

This page of the wiki covers most ingestion methods.

For me, if freebase, then I vape on a mod using the Divine Tribe crucible. If changa, a bubbler used only for changa.

I hold it in for a 20 count minimum, but usually, each hit is held as long as I can.

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Yeah, but OP was asking about Salvia (at least, that's what I imagine considering this is the Salvia subforum).




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#5 Posted : 8/11/2021 8:50:43 AM

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I’m not kidding fuck I feel like smoking freebase dmt is a fucking art form…. Make or break the experience… you know before I dive into anything I gather as much knowledge as possible down to the inhale… i didn’t know this was nazi Germany… GEEZzzz

Just FYI no hate.. I’m just buzzed feeling froggy…
 
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#6 Posted : 8/11/2021 8:53:22 AM

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downwardsfromzero wrote:
Voidmatrix wrote:
null24 wrote:
You are kidding right?


Laughing this is the second time one of your posts has cracked me up today null24 Big grin

This page of the wiki covers most ingestion methods.

For me, if freebase, then I vape on a mod using the Divine Tribe crucible. If changa, a bubbler used only for changa.

I hold it in for a 20 count minimum, but usually, each hit is held as long as I can.

One love

Yeah, but OP was asking about Salvia (at least, that's what I imagine considering this is the Salvia subforum).




Also yes I’m speaking about salvia… everyone tells me one hit rocks their world so I was curious if it’s might be better to do a couple tiny puffs instead of a large inhale? Kinda walk in slowly sort of speak.
 
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#7 Posted : 8/11/2021 12:21:10 PM

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It just comes down to dosage, I recommend weighing your doses and finding out what your concentrate is the equivalent of in plain leaf.

I really don't think Salvia is something you want to over do in terms of dosage, it can be brutal and many who over do it end up traumatized.

I think one of the key things with Salvia is that it's best done in silent darkness with you laying perfectly still, it seems sensory input of any kind is so greatly amplified that it can lead to a lot of confusion. one of my best / deepest experiences with it came from quite a low dose where I lay down immediately after taking the hit and just relaxed into it, the transition from here to the other side was so smooth and so there was no shock at all really.. the only shock came afterwards with how world shattering the experience was and in that moment, I wished I'd had a sitter who could've told me that I'd smoked salvia and that everything was fine as that'd have instantly dispelled any confusion I was feeling.

Quidding may be the better way to go.
 
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#8 Posted : 12/13/2021 5:26:07 PM

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It just comes down to dosage, I recommend weighing your doses and finding out what your concentrate is the equivalent of in plain leaf.

I really don't think Salvia is something you want to over do in terms of dosage, it can be brutal and many who over do it end up traumatized.

I think one of the key things with Salvia is that it's best done in silent darkness with you laying perfectly still, it seems sensory input of any kind is so greatly amplified that it can lead to a lot of confusion. one of my best / deepest experiences with it came from quite a low dose where I lay down immediately after taking the hit and just relaxed into it, the transition from here to the other side was so smooth and so there was no shock at all really.. the only shock came afterwards with how world shattering the experience was and in that moment, I wished I'd had a sitter who could've told me that I'd smoked salvia and that everything was fine as that'd have instantly dispelled any confusion I was feeling.

Quidding may be the better way to go.




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#9 Posted : 12/13/2021 5:27:44 PM

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downwardsfromzero wrote:
Voidmatrix wrote:
null24 wrote:
You are kidding right?


Laughing this is the second time one of your posts has cracked me up today null24 Big grin

This page of the wiki covers most ingestion methods.

For me, if freebase, then I vape on a mod using the Divine Tribe crucible. If changa, a bubbler used only for changa.

I hold it in for a 20 count minimum, but usually, each hit is held as long as I can.

One love

Yeah, but OP was asking about Salvia (at least, that's what I imagine considering this is the Salvia subforum).




Do MAOIs have an effect on Salvia?
 
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#10 Posted : 12/13/2021 6:20:36 PM

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I doubt there would be much effect since salvia is not an alkaloid, so missing nitrogen, and I do not believe it has any amino group.

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General technique: use something with a chamber to condense the smoke (bong/bubbler). Burn it hot, put the weed etiquette aside and go ahead and torch that bowl. Hit it big as you can and hold it, hold it, hold it.

My experience is that smaller puffs do stack and enough of them will open the space.

Can certainly confirm the efficacy of minimizing sensory input, darkness and stillness are your friend if you want to avoid becoming the armchair.

Salvia is reverse tolerance, the more you use, the less you need. Be looking to step down the dosage over time if you use it regularly.

Harmalas do not potentiate salvia the way they do with a tryptamine, but there is a definite synergy and it's quite nice ime.

I've never been able to get a quid to work with dried leaf, I've had limited success with tincture, it works but it takes some doing. Fresh leaf works great if you can handle chewing enough of it to get in, it gets more and more bitter the more you chew and you really do have to earn it. I don't have any experience with complexing salvinorin, but it looks very promising and I'd suggest looking into that if you want to go for buccal admin.

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#12 Posted : 12/15/2021 4:21:28 AM

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Underclocked wrote:

Do MAOIs have an effect on Salvia?

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Voidmatrix wrote:
I doubt there would be much effect since salvia is not an alkaloid, so missing nitrogen, and I do not believe it has any amino group.
)
Harmala alkaloids have an effect on the activity of a number non-tryptamine of things through mechanisms either secondary to their RIMA activity or through any of several other types of activity that they also have.

Other MAOIs would have to be considered on a case-by-case basis, but seeing as opioid agonists can give rise to a downstream serotonin release, I would suggest it is best to avoid combining Salvia divinorum with an irreversible MAOI.




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#13 Posted : 12/15/2021 1:55:14 PM

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downwardsfromzero wrote:
Underclocked wrote:

Do MAOIs have an effect on Salvia?

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Voidmatrix wrote:
I doubt there would be much effect since salvia is not an alkaloid, so missing nitrogen, and I do not believe it has any amino group.
)
Harmala alkaloids have an effect on the activity of a number non-tryptamine of things through mechanisms either secondary to their RIMA activity or through any of several other types of activity that they also have.

Other MAOIs would have to be considered on a case-by-case basis, but seeing as opioid agonists can give rise to a downstream serotonin release, I would suggest it is best to avoid combining Salvia divinorum with an irreversible MAOI.


Thank you kindly for the correctionSmile

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