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#1 Posted : 4/29/2021 7:39:49 PM

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It was supposed to be a mild trip at 2.5g dried transkei cubensis... It was anything but mild.

With a young child at home, I don't have many opportunities for good psychedelic trips, but my son went on his first school trip for two days, so I had to take the opportunity.

The trip started like a rocket, 20min in, as I was showering, it got overwhelming real fast. The air was thick, I couldn't focus my eyes on anything, there was movement everywhere. I was enjoying the moment but due to past experiences I knew I was getting way more than I bargained for Very happy

I laid down in bed for a while with my partner, and I was getting bombarded with visions and buzzing sounds.. Wait a minute, is this mushrooms or DMT? I thought.. It was exactly like DMT, fractal-beings-and-alien-mothership-scanning-me-for-my-flaws included.

Then started the cleansing... It was as if the entities were cleaning my respiratory and my digestive tract. This wasn't just a psychological feeling, I was clearly feeling physical changes happening, like my throat getting drier, and the feeling of mucus getting a different consistency and being expelled.

It's hard to overstate what was happening, this was some SERIOUS cleaning happening, and it came with a clear message I was being told (or intuitively I understood it, as if by telepathy), which is: "we are cleaning you now so you don't get a cancer later".... As the rational mind post-trip sets in, of course we can ask questions about the actual validity of this, how literal the whole thing was, but it doesn't matter really, at least during the experience it felt CLEARLY real.

Now here comes the part that surprised me.. The entities were telling me the cleansing job was not free.. They demanded a ritual sacrifice in exchange.. What kind of sacrifice, you may ask? No chicken voodoo offering, no human blood, thankfully, they wanted me to induce vomit. Now, they were making me overwhelmed with visions, with nausea and what not, but they clearly told (or implied telepathically) that they were not going to make me vomit, it was not going to happen by itself, that the sacrifice meant I had to force it with a finger down my throat.

As I was debating whether to really do it, sitting next to the toilet, with my closed eyes I saw the entities getting nervous.. They were demanding the sacrifice, they were anxious, thirsty for "blood". It was really as if they fed on it, and they needed it fast! It was weiiiird lol but I suppose that's the least I can do for a cancer cure, right? Very happy

After a little purging, the entities came back, it had not been enough. I hadn't fully commited to the finger down my throat, I hadn't expelled enough... Alright alright, come down you little bastards, I'll give you more. After a second run speaking to the toilet I told them to bugger off, I made my part of the deal.

Seems they were satisfied, so after that I just sat outside in the garden watching the birds fly by and the trees be caressed by the wind, and had a magical rest of the trip.

Words really don't do justice, there were so many aspects to this experience that are hard to describe. The intelligence behind the communication with me, it was so clearly NOT my own consciousness.. Also how exactly similar to DMT it was in terms of visuals and what not. And how potent the physical cleaning part actually felt, the physical changes I felt happening inside of me, my airways cleaning up, mucus being expelled, the feeling of being scrubbed from the inside.

Anyway... I hope you guys enjoyed reading this. Anybody else had entities tell them to sacrifice by purging ? Very happy
 

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#2 Posted : 4/29/2021 8:12:27 PM

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Joker at the start of one of first dmt trips, orchestrated my coughing until throat spasm and vomiting.

I think this is level where imagination goes wild and is playing tricks on us.

Or maybe it is visualisation of subconsciousness subprogram whcih is currently controlling your bodily funcion, which you earlier thoght you had full control of.

Mushrooms and DMT are the same for me now. Typical DMT trip for me is comparable to high dose shroom peak without body euphoria. Also it is as if you are wathing the experience through the different filter. Visuals are kinda same but different geometry.
 
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#3 Posted : 4/29/2021 8:52:58 PM

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Thank you for sharing, endlessnessness.

I've had several experiences where I have had the need to reflect my boundaries and be careful to retain my autonomy. There are reports even on this forum from people who feel like psychedelics have led them to form very unhealthy spiritual bonds with malevolent entities.

This is the dark side of psychedelics that I believe is very real.

Even though the payment they required from you is quite innocent in form, there is symbolism in the act that is uncanny. They were pressing you to do something and did not respect your autonomy in the decision.

Regardless of what we think about the spiritual implications of such demands I think retaining one's integrity in all decisions is important.

I have turned down some shady offers and afterwards it has felt like I was tested and did the right thing and there are forces who appreciate that. Keeping my intentions clear I'm able to better progress into the directions that resonate with who I really am and want to develop into.
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#4 Posted : 4/29/2021 11:55:03 PM

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There's a good amount of reverberating resonance and synchronicity with me and this post. I saw and read it earlier in the day and wanted to take a little time to clear my head before responding.

A changa experience thereafter forces my response to the question at the end: while I may not have been told to purge as a sacrifice, I can't help but say that, at least for me, purging is a sacrifice for some kinds of healing.

My experience forces that response because I cried my heart out while puking my brains out lmao. I have a little bit of a headache and am a little worn out, but psychologically and emotionally feel a page has been turned on issues I'm healing from. Still a ways to go though.

Relative to mushrooms, since I throw up almost everytime I eat them, that's just the sacrifice of eating mushrooms for me haha.

It's not surprising to me that you had such a DMTesque experience on mushrooms, as I've had similar, though I don't think quite that intense of experiences also. I am also fond of your statement regarding what you considered NOT part of your consciousness, as I entertain the same in many regards. It's always so fascinating.

Out of curiosity, did you share these aspects of your experience with your partner, and if so, what were their thoughts?

Thank you for sharing Endlessness. I really enjoyed it. ❤

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#5 Posted : 4/30/2021 12:07:54 PM

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Exitwound wrote:
Joker at the start of one of first dmt trips, orchestrated my coughing until throat spasm and vomiting.


Sounds intense! Crazy how the joker archetype is present in so many trips all around the world. I've had friends who had never read a dmt trip report so no self-suggestion at play, and yet they also saw jokers...

Exitwound wrote:

I think this is level where imagination goes wild and is playing tricks on us.

Or maybe it is visualisation of subconsciousness subprogram whcih is currently controlling your bodily funcion, which you earlier thoght you had full control of.


Yeah who knows, many possibilities. Our mind certainly plays tricks on us all the time, including on psychedelic experiences... but not everything is a trick, I suppose, so it's hard to know what is what sometimes.

Exitwound wrote:

Mushrooms and DMT are the same for me now. Typical DMT trip for me is comparable to high dose shroom peak without body euphoria. Also it is as if you are wathing the experience through the different filter. Visuals are kinda same but different geometry.


Yep Smile


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Thank you for sharing, endlessnessness.

I've had several experiences where I have had the need to reflect my boundaries and be careful to retain my autonomy. There are reports even on this forum from people who feel like psychedelics have led them to form very unhealthy spiritual bonds with malevolent entities.

This is the dark side of psychedelics that I believe is very real.

Even though the payment they required from you is quite innocent in form, there is symbolism in the act that is uncanny. They were pressing you to do something and did not respect your autonomy in the decision.

Regardless of what we think about the spiritual implications of such demands I think retaining one's integrity in all decisions is important.

I have turned down some shady offers and afterwards it has felt like I was tested and did the right thing and there are forces who appreciate that. Keeping my intentions clear I'm able to better progress into the directions that resonate with who I really am and want to develop into.


Thank you for the feedback! I certainly know where you are coming from, it's important that we mantain our autonomy and critical thinking.. I think your recommendation applies to many trips people may have for sure, specially with "dark entities" and things of the kind. That's also why we started this wiki entry. That being said, I don't think this particular case is the same. I may have sounded too dramatic, it was generally a light hearted experience, and the overall feeling I had was that ultimately it's all out of Love.

Either way, thanks for sharing your thoughts!


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There's a good amount of reverberating resonance and synchronicity with me and this post. I saw and read it earlier in the day and wanted to take a little time to clear my head before responding.

A changa experience thereafter forces my response to the question at the end: while I may not have been told to purge as a sacrifice, I can't help but say that, at least for me, purging is a sacrifice for some kinds of healing.

My experience forces that response because I cried my heart out while puking my brains out lmao. I have a little bit of a headache and am a little worn out, but psychologically and emotionally feel a page has been turned on issues I'm healing from. Still a ways to go though.

Relative to mushrooms, since I throw up almost everytime I eat them, that's just the sacrifice of eating mushrooms for me haha.

It's not surprising to me that you had such a DMTesque experience on mushrooms, as I've had similar, though I don't think quite that intense of experiences also. I am also fond of your statement regarding what you considered NOT part of your consciousness, as I entertain the same in many regards. It's always so fascinating.

Out of curiosity, did you share these aspects of your experience with your partner, and if so, what were their thoughts?

Thank you for sharing Endlessness. I really enjoyed it. ❤

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yeah, what you say makes a lot of sense. I've definitely had the crying/purging experiences before, and while they can be exhausting, they are also very liberating. And I agree with you that the work is not finished after the experience, it's an ongoing process of healing ourselves, or gaining consciousness and awareness, getting closer to the source of Love.

As for my partner, yeah I did share with her, we both had a laugh about it. She didn't have somethign similar but was supportive and asked me if I needed anything while I was talking to the toilet gods Very happy

She was going through a different process of her own, exploring her own singing talent, expressing herself in very creative ways. It was a cathartic process for her too.. So even though we had very different experiences, it was still nice to be able to share with each other, talk about it and support each other.

Be well my friend, and thanks for posting Smile
 
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endlessness wrote:
Thank you for the feedback! I certainly know where you are coming from, it's important that we mantain our autonomy and critical thinking.. I think your recommendation applies to many trips people may have for sure, specially with "dark entities" and things of the kind. That's also why we started this wiki entry. That being said, I don't think this particular case is the same. I may have sounded too dramatic, it was generally a light hearted experience, and the overall feeling I had was that ultimately it's all out of Love.

Either way, thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Good to hear!

I want to add that I've done some things the entities have said I should do to progress and I feel like these things haven't compromised my autonomy. I done things that I have felt are good things to do. This has been mostly about progressing some goals on everyday life.

I believe you are pretty much on the safe side as you don't do things that conflict with your values.

Reading your report again, I think taking purge as an offer can be a sign of benevolence. Taking something nasty away from us and replacing it with something healing. If they appear again you have the opportunity to get to know them better and learn about their intentions.
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#7 Posted : 4/30/2021 5:49:09 PM

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You're very familiar with the space and this was a great report, thanks! (these reports are like porn for some of us.)
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#8 Posted : 4/30/2021 10:57:00 PM

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Thanks for sharing End; well articulated and very interesting experience. The thing that grabs my attention is the cleaning part and particularly the respiratory component..
 
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#9 Posted : 5/2/2021 2:23:35 PM

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Hi,

I've not had entities asking for it, but it just pops up spontaneously as to know it is time and mandatory to do, and it always pays off. As if the air is clean afterwards, a shift happened.

With aya there's no managing factor, it just catapult out on it's own puls.
With extracts, vape and pharma, this emetic self evident component is less obvious than aya, and yes a finger does the job really well. In the act, I summon all sickening factors within myself to come out, but also the sickening energies of my surroundings, the land and even the world to get out. On that moment I feel some sort of responsibility on my part. What can I do? Well, at least this, and what an ace it is. The healing power of the purge is real imho.

I believe that living creates sort of waste products, radicals and whatnot as by-products. Peaces of dna that got corrupted, bio mechanics that got out of line, all very natural. I would not call this negative demons rather natural process effluents.

What I get to see to come out in a healing purge is something else than a regular sober purge. This in itself is telling I reckon. Whilst (and after) it is coming out I tend to attract/absorb or bathe in the celestial electrifying energies of the trip, as if I take a bath in the code that creates life itself, like loading codex of life, to replace and fill in what has left. The purge becomes an incentive that I believe exceeds my personal form, some sort of soul task.

So far no entities seen in that act, I'm very entity sober in trips anyway, so no wonder there.

Some aya purists insist on their healing purge to surpass other entheogen-usage-purge as if it's a penis contest. Granted the bark tannins etc might add a value of their own, but the efficacy of any practice is not solely determined by materials only, when it comes to it the art-of-performance does not come with the materials, experience is. The energetically steering during a purge can be honed, there's a difference between being the victim of a purge or a captain of purge, so to speak Laughing
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Well said friend Smile
 
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Yeah, i have had an experience like that.

It may sound strange, but i had it from edibles even.

I had eaten hashcake an was lying on my bed, contemplating the many mistakes i had made throughout my life at that time.

Suddenly it felt as if god himself was talking to me. I didn't hear a voice, but it just became very apparent to me that all my sins could be forgiven, or they would forever burden my soul, and it all depended on whether i was willing to do the right thing....about RIGHT NOW.

Then i heard my parents start a fight.

I had a rather abusive father, and i heard him scream that he was going to throw my mother of the stairs.

I immediately realised that this was the moment.
I jumped off my bed and ran towards them. Pushed my father aside and told him that he had to go through me first.

The next day, my mother decided to divorce him.
I haven't seen him anymore since then.

It realy felt like something of a sacrifice to stand up to my father like that, at the time.
I knew my relationship with him would be forever broken.
 
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#12 Posted : 5/4/2021 7:19:00 PM

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Maybe they were not feeding on it, maybe they needed you to vomit so the residual of the procedure was to "clear up". Basically, you could be helping yourself if you were to vomit. If they were more straightforward with you about it, your hang ups with it wouldn't be there.
 
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#13 Posted : 7/8/2021 3:33:56 AM

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Quite interesting post endlessness.
We see puke as something dirty, if you think about it... an easy bargain if they are really curing cancer in exchange for that.
Yet, they see it as a sacrifice (or "offering"Pleased there´s something valuable they want there.

Voluntary offering
And they fact that they can´t induce it (not that they don´t have the power), that you are the one who has to do it with your fingers, unlike Ayahausca.
Makes me thing there´s some hidden law they can´t cross, you have to do it on your own will (freewill).

Exchange
Regarding what they can´t take from your puke... perhaps they aren´t only cleaning you, taking bad things... maybe they are taking something precious too...
What could it be? Two options at least.

1_ Something good, like vital etheric energy or sexual energy

2_ Something that is not good for us, but for them is a delicatessem...
Some entities feed on human nasty emotions and low vibration, perhaps all that illnes constitutes a culinary delicacy for them.


Dark entities
I don´t think is easy to label them as either good or bath. It seems as some of them have some agenda that is not reachable for us with our current understanding of reality.
If you are interested in this matter, and, I´d like to reffer to you to the work of people doing regressive hypnosis and contacting with all sort of entities.
It´s a realm of knoledge that might fuckup your mind... this whole thing about therapist removing alien implants and entities.


Further research
If you speak spanish (some in english too) some of the following can be very illustrative (look one of their entire sessions to understand the mechanics of it):

1) Cygnux1 (on YT).
2) Calogero Grifasi (YT, many languages).
3) Dr. Corrado Malanga (italian).

It seems like some people have "contracts" with entities that kidnap your etheric body while you are sleep.Shocked
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#14 Posted : 7/11/2021 9:26:10 PM

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It seems like some people have "contracts" with entities that kidnap your etheric body while you are sleep.


This has been my conclusion too in my years of research on the phenomenon. I'd be shocked if 99.9% of humans aren't taken that way but don't later remember. The physical abductions are much, much more rare.
 
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Handel wrote:
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It seems like some people have "contracts" with entities that kidnap your etheric body while you are sleep.


This has been my conclusion too in my years of research on the phenomenon. I'd be shocked if 99.9% of humans aren't taken that way but don't later remember. The physical abductions are much, much more rare.


Yes... I´ve heard from what you could call positive entities. That this is in a way a standard procedure, even with good intentions, to give you updates, heal your body, introduce ideas... to rectify your life path to better aim to your "soul contracts".

Meaning... it´s not only bad guys that use these methods. But as everybody knows, the negative entities are more keen on incurring in transgressions or violating your free-will.

Also, the highest races would use the so called greys as cheap labour for this boring or technical tasks, in some cases (in exchange for who knows what...). And there seem to be juridictions in earth geography... some areas might be ruled by certain races, so... in case you go to live to another country, you might enter in the jurisdiction of positive/negative races... in that case, the have to negotiate on what treatment you are going to receive. There seems to be some kind of threaty between them, also some kind of authority, a third party that it´s even more powerull than them, overwatching this earth experiment...

This topic is very interesting, I´d like to hear about your research in this topic Handel, seriously.
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It killed those things, it cauterized them..."

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#16 Posted : 7/15/2021 11:59:30 PM

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Based on my experiences, and also experiences of people I know, and what the entities have said themselves about it.
 
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HI,

I've created a bond made with love between the mushroom and myown. I dont believe the mushroom is an entity that demands anything from me perse. It is a mutual agreement, there is only giving out of love meaning; there will not be any negative consequences and any qoncequences that do happen is my own doing.
You are always at the helm of decision making, this is a lesson from the golden teacher.

Even now that im not intoxicated by the eating of mushroom im still in a mutual benificiary relationship. But the game is bigger than that.
The universe its own conciouseness is so grand, keeping yourselve sane in that playfield is a challenge.
The qoncequence is that you become so much more aware of the interconnected ness of everything, nothing is less important than yourselve. Thats a lesson i got from the mushroom.

They are wonderfull teachers just like any other entity or being can be.
This demands respect.

Also, when one respects him/her self then no maloveont entities can take over. \
Please be wary that when entering the psychedelic realm, anything is possible. So tread carefully.

My two cents Very happy
Thanks for the read, it was awesome!
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