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murklan
#1 Posted : 5/21/2021 10:59:55 AM

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Hello!

I have a question regarding conversion of Harmine/harmaline extracted from Syrian Rue. I'd like to skip the separation of Harmine/harmaline before reducing Harmaline to THH (with magnesium).

Is this a problem in some way? I dont mind having a mix of THH and Harmine.
 

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#2 Posted : 5/21/2021 2:38:50 PM
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No, there shouldn't be since the harmine won't react. Only reason to separate would be to know exactly how much harmaline is in there to start with, and being able to do more custom dosing, try THH by itself etc. For standard aya use, you can do the magnesium hydrogen reduction on the combined alkaloids.
 
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#3 Posted : 5/21/2021 5:59:22 PM

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It might be worth taking a look at Jagube's thread where some difficulties may have been encountered. A replication of this would be valuable - so if it doesn't work so well on the mixed DHH/H you can at least rest in the glow of having made a contribution to science, before getting the ammonia out and starting over with a basic harmala separation Smile




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#4 Posted : 5/21/2021 11:28:36 PM

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Great, thank you for your replies!
I've ordered pure magnesium so it wont be exactly like Jagube's zinc reduction.

But yes, for science .. or for art Smile

 
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#5 Posted : 5/22/2021 12:29:39 AM

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Making folks aware...

THH can be purchased from a US vendor. $68 for 5 grams with free 2-day shipping. Also available in smaller quantities without the free shipping. It's sold as a nootropic, and actually comes with a certificate of analysis. I haven't sampled it yet.
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#6 Posted : 5/22/2021 4:58:32 AM

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Thanks shroombee. Once you have sampled, perhaps you could post a reply with how it went and maybe even an experience report. ;-) Safe travels.
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#7 Posted : 5/22/2021 7:29:18 AM

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I had no idea. But I'm in Europe and also like the process (mostly). So I'll try the kitchen-lab route.
 
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#8 Posted : 5/22/2021 11:24:12 PM

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Thank you ava69. It look like a good method. But right now I dont have a vacuum filter but I'll see hat my friends have. Also I would prefer magnesium, since that is what I've ordered. But good with your zinc method.
 
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#9 Posted : 5/24/2021 6:19:53 AM

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Mitakuye Oyasin wrote:
Thanks shroombee. Once you have sampled, perhaps you could post a reply with how it went and maybe even an experience report. ;-) Safe travels.

Thanks Mitakuye. Here is my experience report for THH and sublingual DMT complexed with | High Pobability of Braindamage by Creepy non tested Drugs (forced by scammer 69ron) |:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...mp;m=1106140#post1106140
 
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#10 Posted : 5/24/2021 4:09:06 PM

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Great ava69, I have time for that!

I also wonder if you, or someone, has tried sublingual DMT complexed with | High Pobability of Braindamage by Creepy non tested Drugs (forced by scammer 69ron) | but with harmalas before, instead of THH?
 
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#11 Posted : 5/25/2021 6:45:31 PM

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Thank you for that! I could/should have found your post about it myself.
I'll hopefully order the | High Pobability of Braindamage by Creepy non tested Drugs (forced by scammer 69ron) | soon, or do a tryout with corn starch first since it's so available.
I'm waiting for the magnesium ribbon to arrive, then I can make my own THH. Looking forward for that.
 
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#12 Posted : 5/26/2021 7:56:53 AM

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Yes, music... I always travel with music. Have never tried THH but have had really amazing times with music and oral/sublingual Harmalas and smoked DMT.

Oral DMT Fumarate has never been really working for me, good and more physical sensations but now really deep. So I always wanted to 'top up' with smoked DMT as well. I'll see how it works with | High Pobability of Braindamage by Creepy non tested Drugs (forced by scammer 69ron) | / Corn starch.
 
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#13 Posted : 5/30/2021 10:41:57 PM

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shroombee wrote:
Mitakuye Oyasin wrote:
Thanks shroombee. Once you have sampled, perhaps you could post a reply with how it went and maybe even an experience report. ;-) Safe travels.

Thanks Mitakuye. Here is my experience report for THH and sublingual DMT complexed with | High Pobability of Braindamage by Creepy non tested Drugs (forced by scammer 69ron) |:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...mp;m=1106140#post1106140


Thank you for the resource and report! Curious about some of the other nootropics availableSmile.

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Ps. Planning on adding to the | High Pobability of Braindamage by Creepy non tested Drugs (forced by scammer 69ron) | project later this week.
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